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Old 07-26-06, 01:55 AM   #1
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How to choose rims/wheels

I have a 06 Tricross that comes with the Pavé rims. I am looking for a new pair of lighter rims that can fit this bike with some skinny tires (probably 700x25). Exactly, how do you choose the proper rims/wheels? Do you pick pre-built ones? I read that hard anodized rims fail pre-maturely as they tend to crack quickly (Aren't all wheels produced these days anodized?). The Mavic ksyrium elite wheels appear to have a reputation of going out of true easily (as indicated here: http://www.roadbikereview.com/cat/wh..._2490crx.aspx). And I hear others complain about machine-washed rims are not of high quality (Funny thing is Pavé rims are machine-washed and still run a price tag of $450 a pair). So can anybody recommend some wheels? My budget is from $300-500. I think this can get me a pretty nice pair of wheels with some awesome hubs.

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Old 07-26-06, 02:50 AM   #2
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I've never heard about factory Campy wheels going out of true. I am very happy with my Zonda's they also come in a Shimano hub version.

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TriCrosses rock! I love the Paves, but I also use my older Velomax Circuit Comps. It's a straight swap, and I found I didn't have to adjust the shifters. Of course I had to readjust the cantis, the Circuits aren't as wide as the Paves. Takes only a minute or so. I love the Circuits, now sold by Easton. Bulletproof, never have broken a spoke nor have they gone out of true. And they can be had for less than $500...YMMV
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TriCrosses rock! I love the Paves, but I also use my older Velomax Circuit Comps. It's a straight swap, and I found I didn't have to adjust the shifters. Of course I had to readjust the cantis, the Circuits aren't as wide as the Paves. Takes only a minute or so. I love the Circuits, now sold by Easton. Bulletproof, never have broken a spoke nor have they gone out of true. And they can be had for less than $500...YMMV
Do you know if the Pavé rims can take 700x25 tires?
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Sorry for hijacking the thread, but do any of you have experience with Easton Velomax Vistas? Someone local wants to sell a set for $150 that he removed from a brand new tri bike.

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Do you know if the Pavé rims can take 700x25 tires?
Haven't tried it, but I doubt it. Refer to Sheldon Brown's article on tire sizing. I would measure the Paves width, and see what fits from the table.
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You might look at Fulcrum Racing 3's I've been using them for about a year now and raced cross last year on them... good wheels, they take a ton of abuse and keep true as well as look really sexy (not that it really matters) There's also the old Mavic Open Pro rim - ultegra hub set up that has and always will be totally reliable, light and best of all well within your budget.
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Don't buy pre-built! Many manufacturers (Mavic, Cane Creek, some Campagnolo, etc) use proprietary spoke lacing/hub flange systems that make it extremely difficult for a novice or anyone who doesn't have the proper tools at the time to do roadside maintenece or even to replace a spoke if given a little time. Not to mention, these wheels are often built by machine and never truly equilibrated, thus lending to quicker out-of-trueness than a wheel built by a master.
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Don't buy pre-built! Many manufacturers (Mavic, Cane Creek, some Campagnolo, etc) use proprietary spoke lacing/hub flange systems that make it extremely difficult for a novice or anyone who doesn't have the proper tools at the time to do roadside maintenece or even to replace a spoke if given a little time. Not to mention, these wheels are often built by machine and never truly equilibrated, thus lending to quicker out-of-trueness than a wheel built by a master.
That's what a lot of riders say too. But still, there are too many choices for a newbie like me to pick and decide. I don't know how the number of spoke counts is going to affect the ride. There is also a question of spoke thickness and the material of the nipple. There seems to be too many choices.
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That's what a lot of riders say too. But still, there are too many choices for a newbie like me to pick and decide. I don't know how the number of spoke counts is going to affect the ride. There is also a question of spoke thickness and the material of the nipple. There seems to be too many choices.
This is where the wheel builder approach shines. With a proper wheel builder you will start with a conversation and the wheel builder will then take the information yo uprovided and make recommendations as to what kind of wheel (components, etc.) are best for you.

I just did that by calling a wheel bulder to have a new wheelset built for my mountain bike and I highly recommend going this route.
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