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    Looking to get in the loop

    Everyone I know who does it says it's a blast, every race I've watched looks like a blast, riding trails on a mountian bike is a blast, so I'm going to do it.
    I got a crazy idea to put a new cross fork onto my old '84 Trek CrMo bike along with a new groupset. Working at a bike shop, I can do everything for ~$250-$350.
    The only possible problem that I would have is getting canti's on the rear. I've got no problem getting the studs, but I'm not sure how to get them onto the seat stays. Is there something I can buy that will allow me to clamp studs on? I saw something like that that T-Mobile was using at Paris-Roubaix in 2004, but can't find the picure anymore.
    Another thing I have to ask; what would be better, cantilevers or Tektro direct pulls with after-market pads? The direct pulls work awesome on my MTB

    So far, I've got everything but the group, fork and brakes...

    Frame- '84 Trek lugged CrMo criterium frame
    Fork- Whatever I can get in 1" threaded and canti studs
    Wheels- Fulcrum Racing 5 Evo
    Group- Shimano Tiagra or Campagnolo Mirage/Veloce
    And everything else will be from the parts bin.

    I think I'm going to run with a single chainring, I've got a 39 laying around but I think I'll be spinning too much, what're you running?

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    The only thing I know of is moots used to make Moots Mounts, which were clamp-on canti studs.

    But you could probably get away with something like an Odyssey pitbull or pitbull 2 brake.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Odyssey-Pitbull-...QQcmdZViewItem

    http://www.alansbmx.com/product_info...ae39ec58d6a25e

    I have one I snagged on ebay just for this sort of possible future applications. It's supposed to be the best, most powerful center-mount brake there ever was. Or so I've heard.

    here's a good pic:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/25373440@N00/266957426/

    re: the wisdom of what you're doing- I have no idea. I don't see why not, though.
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    http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-School-Vinta...QQcmdZViewItem

    also for a PITBULL 2 NOS

    Im runnin a 42 and I've been told its average and maybe a bit to much for a lil guy, a 39 would be great!
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    Thanks guys, as soon as I get PayPal funds, I'll be getting one of those Pitbulls. Would there be any problem with the Fulcrum's? The rear is Radial/2x and the front is radial, but they're strong as can be.
    Clincher tire recommendations?

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    http://cgi.ebay.com/NOS-ODYSSEY-PITB...QQcmdZViewItem
    a buy it now for about 30$ USD.

    What are you looking for in clnchers? some nice knobbies? some for racing? some for firetrails? Cause if you are just putting together a fixie for 250-300 then stick with something cheaper like ritchey speedmax pros, they sell for about 10$ a tire and can go up to a 35c (so far as I've seen) and they are decent for firetrails with low mud and nice for cornering on city pavement. Thats my opinion tho.

    you might wanna msg TIMO or 92degrees, both have given me great setup tips along with everyone else on the site.

    I never seen the pitbulls before but what makes them interesting is that you can supposedly mount them just above the bb on the wishbone. would be different to see, but I wouldn't know what it would be like for taking a beating that low on the frame...
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    link to speedmax pros for 10 bucks please?

    i got mine for around 30 each and i think they're a good deal even at that price.
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    Mitcholo CrimsonKarter21's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by dzinehaus
    http://cgi.ebay.com/NOS-ODYSSEY-PITB...QQcmdZViewItem
    a buy it now for about 30$ USD.

    What are you looking for in clnchers? some nice knobbies? some for racing? some for firetrails? Cause if you are just putting together a fixie for 250-300 then stick with something cheaper like ritchey speedmax pros, they sell for about 10$ a tire and can go up to a 35c (so far as I've seen) and they are decent for firetrails with low mud and nice for cornering on city pavement. Thats my opinion tho.

    you might wanna msg TIMO or 92degrees, both have given me great setup tips along with everyone else on the site.

    I never seen the pitbulls before but what makes them interesting is that you can supposedly mount them just above the bb on the wishbone. would be different to see, but I wouldn't know what it would be like for taking a beating that low on the frame...
    Whatever you guys run at the races. I'm going to race this SOB, and it's goign to be a 1x10 speed.

    ::EDIT:: I'm wondering if this would be USCF legal? Would it be smarter to get a Giant TCX on closeout and race on that instead with upgrades wheels?
    Last edited by CrimsonKarter21; 06-14-07 at 10:45 PM.

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    http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWA:IT&ih=006

    if you want nice slicks, cheapies but good for the price of 3 instead of 2

    as for race clinchers vittoria cross evo XG 700 35c
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    Be Happy, Live Life, Be Strong ~j.michaud / dzinehaus

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
    ::EDIT:: I'm wondering if this would be USCF legal? Would it be smarter to get a Giant TCX on closeout and race on that instead with upgrades wheels?
    As I understand it- only from reading here on the forums cuz I still have yet to race myself- you can race on anything as long as you don't have anything protruding from the handlebars like bar-ends. Other rules like "no disc brakes" are only for the higher classes, not for ameteurs.

    At least that's the impression I've picked up. Someone can probably confirm it. Mountainbikes race at cross races, fixed gears with no rear brakes, I saw a guy on a redline 9-2-5 racing. I don't think there's any way you wouldn't be able to race.
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    Clamp on canti studs? I'm doubtful. Have you thought about trying a regular road brake in the back. You won't have all that much mud clearance and you might not be able to run the biggest size tire, but I'll bet it will fit. Some road brakes would be better than others - single pivot would be better than double, for example. Some of the older long-reach arms were downright bowed in their profile. I suspect your cro-mo frame has a fair amount of clearance between the chainstays in the back. The old trek aluminum's didn't have any. It would be a lot cheaper than getting what you're talking about.

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    Hey, I ran across this product today:

    http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...ake+Mount.aspx

    "Dimension Brake Mounts are great for frames or forks without built in brake mounts, intended for use on BMX bikes.

    Allow use of "V" or linear pull brakes on forks with center bolt mounts
    Includes mounting bolt and hose clamps to attach to frame or fork "


    Whaddaya know!
    fun facts: Psychopaths have trouble understanding abstract concepts.
    "Incompetent individuals, compared with their more competent peers, will dramatically overestimate their ability and performance relative to objective criteria."

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