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Old 06-28-07, 09:49 PM   #1
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Front brake "Stoppie" or "Nose-Wheelie"

Can you do it on your cyclocross?

I'm not talking about your skill level, I'm asking about the power of your canti front brake. Reason I ask is that I have the Avid Shorty 4 on a Tricross Comp and I find I don't have the power in the front brake to do so. Or perhaps the power may be there, but the modulation is not, so that I don't feel at all comfortable bringing up the rear end. Furthermore, to correct a particular bad brake squealing problem, I've had to toe-in the front brake enough that perhaps I'm losing some braking power. By comparison, I have Shimano Deore cantis on my mountain bike and find stoppies a confidence inspiring piece-of-cake.

So what do you think? Is it my brakes/toe-in or is it the geometry/tall skinny tire of a cyclocross bike?

(Come to think of it, I also don't feel comfortable trying regular rear-wheel wheelies on my cyclocross either, which again, are a piece of cake on my mountain bike.)
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Old 06-29-07, 07:47 AM   #2
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I can do a "nose-wheelie" on my bike... Well, i don't do it on purpose but i almost accidentally endo'ed at 5mph and panic braking when i realized the car in front of me had stopped (the light turned green, car ahead of me started to move forward, i got ready to sprint so i could draft, looked up at the last second before mashing the pedals and realized someone was running the red light in front of us which made the cars in front of me stop suddenly. My handle bars tapped the guy's trunk so i didn't go over completely but it freaked me out a bit.)

But yes, i can get the back end up. 2007 Giant TCX with Avid Shorty 4s (and original pads for now).
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Endos can be done on just about any bike with some semblence of a front brake--it all lies in shifting your weight when you apply the brake. As for doing one while not intending to, it usually requires quite a bit of sudden pressure applied to the brake. It can be done, but you gotta squeeze real hard. I can do it on my bike with the top-mounted levers, but not very easily with the brifters.
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I can and the first time i did it scared the hell outta me. I haven't tried on my other bike cause its still being built... I will have it done in 2 weeks or less depending on how soon the parts come in the mail.

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With Kool-STop pads I could do it with my Avid shorty's. Power wasn't what caused me to switch to Pauls. Noise and ease of use was.
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Old 06-30-07, 08:49 AM   #6
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Thanks... I think I may have over toe-in'd my brake to stop the noise.... I've heard a lot about the Kool-Stops and may give them a try, particularly if you say it stopped your noise.
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Kool-Stops did NOT stop the squeal on my Avids (nothing did, including adjustments every way possible). Throwing them in the dustbin cured that malady.
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No squeal problems here with my Avids that a little toe-adjustment couldn't fix.
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