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Old 08-09-07, 04:54 PM   #1
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Leader frames?

Anyone have an opinion?
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Old 08-09-07, 05:32 PM   #2
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I looked at the Leader frame as well... as you probably know, a few factories in Taiwan make most of the Al production frames. (Motobecane=Fuji) It seems as though the Leader is most similar to the Nashbar frame. They have similar geometries: 73 STA, 70.5 HTA. They also have a similar taper in the downtube, and are made of butted 7005. OTOH, The dropouts are different (Nashbar's are relieved), and the Nashbar frame includes a disc mount. I'm imagining a scenario in which the same factory welds up the frames, then puts the dropouts/mounts specified by the customer. But it's just my imagination, and may not reflect reality.

I say all that only to propose that the experiences that others have posted regarding the Nashbar frame may be relevant to the Leader.

If I was looking for an inexpensive Al frame to hang parts on, I'd go with the Motobecane 199 frame+fork deal that's on the 'bay these days. It's a Cross Comp frame, really.
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do they have a cross frame?

I was looking for one a couple months back and couldn't find one. Does anyone have a link to see the frame?
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Leader frame

on the 'bay
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