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Recreational Cyclocross and Gravelbiking This has to be the most physically intense sport ever invented. It's high speed bicycle racing on a short off road course or riding the off pavement rides on gravel like :The Dirty Kanza". We also have a dedicated Racing forum for the Cyclocross Hard Core Racers.

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Old 12-15-07, 07:43 PM   #1
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Cyclocross for a Clydesdale

I volunteered out at the Cyclocross nationals yesterday, being held here in Kansas City. I cycle about 1000 miles per year, mostly on my road bike. After yesterday, I may have found a new love. Wow...

Am I naive in assuming cyclocross bikes are tougher than road bikes? Reason I ask: I am 250 pounds. Will lower end CX bikes (i.e. not carbon) sustain the off-road use my weight would give it?

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IMHO, as one clyde to another, any of these woud be a good starting point

drop bar, discbrake, 700c, off the peg
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Disc Brakes

Great list! Some manufacturers there I had forgotten about.

Yesterday, and perhaps it was all the mud on the bikes, I didn't see any disc brakes on the bikes being used at nationals. Obviously, I did not see every bike there. Are disc brakes used at the pro level? Just curious. For me, I think I prefer cantilever. Easier to deal with, yes?
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Great list! Some manufacturers there I had forgotten about.

Yesterday, and perhaps it was all the mud on the bikes, I didn't see any disc brakes on the bikes being used at nationals. Obviously, I did not see every bike there. Are disc brakes used at the pro level? Just curious. For me, I think I prefer cantilever. Easier to deal with, yes?
Disc brakes are not approved for competition by the UCI so they cannot be used for UCI points/rules events, i.e., they are not illegal, no-one's made a decison regarding their use. Most non-national US Cycling and regional independent cyclocross events aren't run to the UCI standard though, I think.

There are some comments previously that you can search for in the CX forum but it's mostly a lot of back and forth whining about the "need" for disc brakes.

I don't have money to burn for new rims so I'll stick with discs.

Why I will only use disc brakes:
no rim wear so no rim replacement every 6 months
consistent braking no matter what the weather and roads/trails are like
masses of power and great modulation
simple to setup, adjust and use
no hassle changing/removing wheels
no rim contact so no worries with out of true wheels
no grabbing or pads wearing so fast you have to replace every 2-3 weeks (wet, gritted roads or muddy trails)
much easier than cantilevers to install, adjust and maintain

disc break +'s and -'s (in commuting but it's a summary thread)
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I've weighed anything from 210 to 235 and had no reliability problems racing or trail riding on a cross bike. I don't think you'll have any unexpected problems either. Common sense says no titanium or carbon anything except frames and forks. It also says you will beat up more parts than a little guy but nothing you shouldn't be expecting by now. I've done fine with conventional 32 spoke wheels. We need to run more tire pressure than the little guys - expect to change them and the cassettes and chains a little more often too.

Run whatever brakes you like, it's only at the national/international level that rim brakes are mandated. There's a lot of experimentation these days with Vs and a travel agent and mini-Vs without. I'm like the V and T/A combo I've run up front. It cures the fork shudder and works great, far better than a canti. Anyway, brakes are relatively unimportant in cross.

Depending on the course a big guy doesn't have the disadvantages he's got on the road. On flat, fast bumpy courses, it's the little guys who get punished.

Anyway, jump in and have fun.

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Disc brakes only matter if you are racing in an event that is UCI Elite Men or UCI Elite Women.
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lots of people start out with a used frame .... maybe off ebay to see if they like it before investing a lot of money into a setup. as far as you weight and cross frames. I have ranged from 205 - 250 and have ridden a lot of different cross frames and all of them have handeled my weight just fine. In general most cross bikes are overbuilt anyway (There will be some exceptions).

I do not have a great opnion on the disc brakes for racing. I have always used the canti's ...... but V'brakes with a travel agent are a deadly combination from my experience. Some people have had better luck with mini-v's. I do use disc on my MTB....... but to my eye the canti's look better. Talk to me in 10 years..... I'll have probably gotten used to seeing disc's by then...

For the record Kona, surly and redline make good entry level frames................. have ridden them all and they behave well on and off the race course.
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Thanks, all, for contributing your thoughts. I, of course, am susceptible to bike fever and it doesn't take much to get me wishing I had another bike. This input keeps me...balanced.
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