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Old 07-15-08, 12:30 PM   #1
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Midge bar alternative...

Is there an alternative to the on-one Midge bars? I want to try them but can't spend the money right now. Is there a cheaper dirt drop around that mimics the midge bars?
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Old 07-15-08, 12:33 PM   #2
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the origin 8 gary bar is about half the price. i have no idea how well it works though.
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Awesome comparison
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I just got my Iro Rob Roy setup with these bars. I like them a lot, and they handle superbly on singletrack.
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^^You mean the origin gary 8?

So I'm reading reviews on these that say they are very close to moustache-bars? Any truth to this? Are brake levers horizontal?
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No, they're not like moustache. They're like midge's. They have a drop- moustache have no drop.
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^^You mean the origin gary 8?

So I'm reading reviews on these that say they are very close to moustache-bars? Any truth to this? Are brake levers horizontal?
Yes, the Origin 8 Gary bars. They are closer to the Midge bars from On-One. Here's what they look like on my bike.



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Could the photo have been any blurrier?
like it matters. it reflects the differences in shape well enough, doesn't it?

p.s. your track bike fails. 56:13? give me a break. or, maybe give you a brake? har har.
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Yes, the Origin 8 Gary bars. They are closer to the Midge bars from On-One. Here's what they look like on my bike.



Nice bike. Thank you for the photo.
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Here are the Garys on a bar bike of mine...
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Of course mines a ten speed so I'll have to have tiagra I suppose in order to shift. I'm really torn between the Midge and the Nitto Randonneur bars. Wish there was something in between.
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I'd go with the Nitto Randonneurs or some Salsa bars if I had STI on this bike. In fact, I've been seriously considering the Salsas for my geared bike.
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I'd go with the Nitto Randonneurs or some Salsa bars if I had STI on this bike. In fact, I've been seriously considering the Salsas for my geared bike.
Yeah but I hate drops, especially my enormous road drops. The midge would be an alternative to straight bars. I just can't make up my mind. I'll give the midge's a shot.
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I guess my issue is that I feel that it'd be hard to shift with STI levers with Midge/Gary bars.

The Salsa bars are a little closer to normal. I'll need a new stem if I change to these bars though, the Eastons that came on my bike are 31.8 I think.

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Thanks for the suggestion. I wish I could try out a setup. I once saw a guy with Tiagra on his moustache bars. Of course he wasn't a racer. But he shifted by pushing down(ish) on the levers. Might work.

My problem is that I hate transitioning to new hand positions on the bars. It seems that on a cx bike, you are on the hoods for 90% of the time, unless you need to climb or descend, then you go for the drops.

I like the idea of finding a shallow enough and wide enough bar to stay in the drops 90% of hte time, and get on the hoods when you are done with your serious riding.
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I like the idea of finding a shallow enough and wide enough bar to stay in the drops 90% of hte time, and get on the hoods when you are done with your serious riding.
have you considered a more "traditional" road bar that's shallow?

i just got some fsa compact omega bars for my wife's motobecane. they have 125mm drop and 80mm reach, with a slight flare in the drops. she loves them! they fit her waaaay better than the crappy super long reach bars it came with stock. i got them from universal cycles for 36 dollars. the image on their site isn't correct though.
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Yes, the Origin 8 Gary bars. They are closer to the Midge bars from On-One. Here's what they look like on my bike.
Does anyone know if they work with barcons?

I've got Midge bars on both my Fixed and Geared CrossChecks.





I'd like to get a new fork for the Fixed, jack the bars up even higher
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Don't write off Salsa Bell Laps until you've tried 'em. I have them on my Cyclocross bike, and I stay in the drops for 90% of the time off-road. Granted, I don't race, just use the bike as my 'go anywhere do anything' but I ride singletrack and through a regulation cyclocross course in the park nearby whenever I can.
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I've got Midge bars on both my Fixed and Geared CrossChecks.
Those are two sweet rides.

But you knew that.
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Price Point has the Midge on sale right now so it's a good time to pick it up if you normally can't afford it.

http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/145...Handle-Bar.htm
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Does anyone know if they work with barcons?

I've got Midge bars on both my Fixed and Geared CrossChecks.



I'd like to get a new fork for the Fixed, jack the bars up even higher
Nice bars, did you angle the barcons in or is that the only way the can go?

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The WTB Mountain drop bar is very similar to the Midge bars:

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yeah, the garys are quite different than the midges--and not in a better way, in my opinion.

On the other hand, the WTB mountain road drops are almost exactly the same, with a slightly deeper drop and a longer drop section behind the bend (the "ergo" section). I've seen them all, and have ridden midges and WTB extensively. I quite like the WTBs, and I think they are actually an improvement over the midges. They are not significantly cheaper than midges, unfortunately.
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I appreciate all the feedback. I decided to take the high road and keep trying to learn to love a more traditional drop, since I'm just getting into the sport and trying to be serious about the fundamentals. I figure if I can learn to be comfortable in both positions I will branch out from there.

So I bought a Nitto Randonneur, thinking it would be drastically different from my Easton EA70 or whatever the hell they are (unlabeled stock easton bars on my Kona Jake). Man was I disappointed. They were exactly the same with a little tiny bit of flare. I looked at a bunch of pictures online, and it is surprising how some photographs make that small flare seem so large.

So I returned them and out of desperation bought the smallest pair of tiny compact drops that are on the market. They are Bontrager Fit VS and are actually marketed to women- so I'll send out a pre-emptive "**** you" to anyone that would like to give me a hard time about that.

I figure it's a good starting place, although I'm still missing my mtb. I get them in the mail today.
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