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Old 07-27-08, 08:53 PM   #1
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Cross Bike Weight Mystery - Help!

I'm trying to find a light cross-bike and the websites of the big boys don't list the weights of the bikes.

Can anyone help out with the weights of these bikes in the standard build form:

Jake the Snake
Surly Cross Check
Lemond Poprad
Salsa Le Cruz
Salsa Casserole
Redline Conquest

Or any others. I'd love to know which is sub 20 lbs. I need a bike available in a 47, so I need to check into who has smaller frames. Do you guys know the weight savings typically found in going from a 55cm to a 47cm? Some of the weights given are for the larger sized bikes and I'm wondering how much mine would be. Thanks!
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Old 07-27-08, 10:19 PM   #2
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Salsa La Cruz Frame weight: 4.54 pounds (2060 grams) 51 cm
Fork weight: 2.07 pounds (940 grams)

With a steel fork, this one might be tough to get under 20 lbs.

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Old 07-28-08, 05:54 AM   #3
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I'll add the Bianchi Axis to that list, if anyone knows the details on that bike's weight complete.
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Old 07-28-08, 06:03 AM   #4
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Try a Ridley, I had a crosswind a few years ago and it was al light as my road bike when set up with tubulars.
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Old 07-28-08, 08:09 AM   #5
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bmorebent, none of those bikes you mention come under 20 lbs. in their stock form. the lighter ones are gonna be the aluminum frames, the kona, redline and axis.

the kona major jake (next step up from jts) comes in at 20.1 lbs stock. that'd probably be more cost effective than buying one off your list and trying to lighten it by buying parts.

a lot of people like their konas. and the ridley crosswind is very nice, albeit a bit of a step up.

remember that if you're racing you always risk crashing. i usually try not to race on anything i can't afford to replace, although i'll be breaking that rule this season...

p.s. if you're in bmore you should definitely check out charm city cross. it's really well put on and a fun course. see you there!
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Old 07-28-08, 08:31 AM   #6
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Not sure I want to race, though I will check out that site because who knows! Do they have females out there racing? My intention initially was to get a road bike, to get out there with some friends of mine who often take long weekend rides and have nice bikes (Litespeed and Fuji Professional). But I'm not sure I want to buy two bikes and I know I also want to spend time riding around Rock Creek Parkway and the NCR Trail. So I was thinking of buying a cross bike, as many have done, to sort of do my road bike duty and also my daily fun rides duty. At this point, I can't decide which I will end up spending more time doing. I guess if I get the road bike addiction, I can buy another road specific bike (though part of me is concerned I won't get the bug if I don't really have a true road bike). So I wanted a cross bike that is as close to a road bike as possible and then maybe switch out the tires or the wheelset - not sure which people recommend as easiest/best?? So I was starting that analysis by thinking of weight. Not sure which of the cross bikes have the most road bike like geometry. Anyone know? The Kona Major Jake comes in 49cm as the smallest size and I can stand over the cross bar but with no wiggle room. They probably can make adjustments to the rest of the bike for me, but I know I am probably a true 47cm in that bike. So was thinking of Bianchi or Redline since those come in the smaller iterations. So does Surly and Salsa. Dealers are hard to find for the Redline, Surly, and Salsa though. Any thoughts on this all would be great. I know others have posted similar questions so I am trying to search the archives without be a "repeat offender" and boring people.

Thanks for the thoughts! BTW the Kona Sutra fit me really well in the 49cm but that bike is a tank. Too much weight! For me, a wimpy woman of 5'4 and 115 lbs, I want low weight not only for speed but also for ease of portage etc.!
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yes, they absolutely do have females racing (in their own categories) and most seem to be having a blast!

i think you've got the right idea. a cross bike with road tires is just as good as a road bike (excepting the upper echelons of road racing), and if you have any trouble keeping up with your friends it won't be the bike's fault

i like a second wheelset because it's easy to swap out wheels when i want to hit the trails. but if that's cost prohibitive, it's perfectly doable to just swap out the tires based on the ride you want to do. i do think that trying to keep up with roadie friends using knobby cyclocross tires would be frustrating, as the tires add a lot of resistance.

at this point i wouldn't get too hung up on geometry, most of these stock bikes are pretty similar. but generally steeper head and seattube angles and longer top tubes indicate more "roadish" geometry.

redline and salsa should list their dealers on their website. surly is distributed by quality bike products, who supply most of the bike shops in the u.s. almost any shop should be able to order one, and if you call around you might find a shop who was one in your size in stock to try out. salsa is also distributed by qbp, but not all shops are "salsa dealers." as far as i know, anybody can order a surly.

as has been said many times, a cross bike is a good "do it all" bike. i don't think you'd be disappointed in any of the bikes you mentioned.
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Gracias. Thanks for the great advice. I'm going to research the Ridley Crossbow, which appears to come in a size that would work for me. Not sure how easy it is to come across this bike to buy, let alone to test ride, but I'll try to research it! I'm trying to buy from one of the local LBSs, just to be sure fit is perfect, but I may have to see if they'll order one in for me just for me to test it out.

BTW, an extra wheelset seems cheaper than an extra bike! : )
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Gracias. Thanks for the great advice. I'm going to research the Ridley Crossbow, which appears to come in a size that would work for me. Not sure how easy it is to come across this bike to buy, let alone to test ride, but I'll try to research it! I'm trying to buy from one of the local LBSs, just to be sure fit is perfect, but I may have to see if they'll order one in for me just for me to test it out.

BTW, an extra wheelset seems cheaper than an extra bike! : )
I had to get my crosswind through an LBS ...... do not see them on the net that much.
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Old 07-30-08, 08:15 PM   #10
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In general, do not fret about the weight of the bikes. The bikes listed above are not considered to be uber-light, though nor are they pig-heavy either. They're of a modest, easy-to-ride weight, probably as little as 20 pounds and at most, maybe 23 or 24 pounds. However, one model may be lighter with heavier wheels and another may be heavier, but with lighter wheels. The later combination makes for a better ride. Also, the more you ride, the more you'll eventually upgrade to lighter, better parts (this will happen, trust me! It's just part of cycling).

Best bet: Test ride some of the bikes, and see which one you like best. Also, add to the list the Giant TCX, another well-made, road-worthy cyclocross bike. It sounds like you're in the DC area, so you can find the Giant at a shop called the Bike Rack (bikerackdc.com).
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Old 07-31-08, 10:44 AM   #11
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Crosscheck's weight is on the website for the frameset. It's a boat anchor. Think it comes in at over 6 lbs. for the frameset.

On the flipside, it won the Canadian Women's Nat'l 'Cross Championships a few years ago.
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Old 07-31-08, 01:49 PM   #12
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Weight always varies, the bike shop where I bought my Cannondale XR7 said it weighed 22 lbs, today I weighed it on some digital scales and it weighed 24.8....getting up in the MTB weight zone.
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