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    09 SuperNova vs. 09 Gin n' Trombones

    Both bikes with a rival group. Which should I choose and why? thanks!

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    What you should do is post pics. I haven't seen anything on the '09 Supernova yet.

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    Buy the one that fits you. Other than that I'd go for the Jamis just because it's got an Easton fork.

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    09 supernova. http://picasaweb.google.com/recneps/...85471580499394

    I dont know, the geometries are pretty close, the jamis comes with better brakes but everything else is pretty comparable. Personally I would go with the Ven Dessel.
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    I'm very happy with my Van Dessel Hole Shot w/ Rival (similar to G&T but w/o rear carbon triangle.) which I chose over a Jake the Snake. Reasons for doing so were geometry, giving SRAM a shot (have Sora on my 1st bike), and to support a local company.

    Geometry is good, frame is nice and snappy. The Tektro CR520's are good, though not quite as great as the CR720's on my Jake. Got mine w/ a SRAM S300 Cross crankset rather than the FSA.

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    Thanks for the responses. Looks like I have to do some more thinking....i'd like to get an order in on Wed.

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    You can hardly go wrong. If you can't ride them both, what do you liek or dislike about our current ride geometry wise, and go from there.

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    Is the Supernova shipping yet? My local dealer said it would be a few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamSimpson View Post
    Is the Supernova shipping yet? My local dealer said it would be a few weeks.
    Last I heard was mid-September and that was a month ago.
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    The shop I work for is a Jamis dealer. They seem to be running a little behind schedule with their 09 stuff. The only 09 we'vebeen able to get in so far were two steel road bikes...forget which ones exactly...satellite I think.

    Think i'm going to put an order in for the supernova and hope it ships soon.
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    I'm looking at the Jamis because of eyelets on the dropouts. The '09 pictures clearly show improved eyelets on the dropouts.

    To me, eyelets for a rack are essential on any bike -- what good is a bike that can't transport a 12 pack!? But I'm a commuter and envision the Supernova first as a totally hot commuter which I hope to occasionally ride in 'cross races or just take out when the weather gets good 'n nasty.

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    No experiance with either, but the Jamis sure looks like a great bargin and the G&T sure is pretty! You have a very tough choice!

    Gin & Trombones


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    BTW- If you go to my website, http://threeflys.smugmug.com/gallery...7_oHqJ8#P-1-21, you can enlarge both of these pics
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    We just go our new Supernovas at the shop, and I have to say they look very nice. The ride is very inspriring, and the spec is race ready. The only thing I'd add is a tubeless kit and it's ready to roll. Build quality seems better than in years past, and the fender mounts look very clean. I'd buy this bike if I hadn't already commited to something else this season...

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    I've ridden them both of them on the same day (2009's even). You can't lose either way. Both are totally race ready and great.

    if I were buying for myself and it was only for racing, I would probably get the gin and trombones.
    if I were buying for myself and I wanted it for all around stuff too, I would get the Jamis.

    Jamis felt a tad less agressive than the van dessel, but I think the Van Dessel would feel a tiny bit worse for a substitute road bike kinda ride.


    but these are just my general impressions

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