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    picking up a windsor clockwork SS, will cx tires fit?

    i was going to put some time and money into building a SS crmoly cx bike, but for the price of the windsor clockwork from BD, combined with the fact that work is eating most of my free time, i want to buy this bike, slap on some 700x30 cx tires, my eggbeaters, and hit the trails.

    i wont be doing any real cx racing, i want to be able to ride in snow, and some of the packed dirt trails around my job, and i loathe my mountain bike which i have been using for this.

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    why not just get BD's single speed cx bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by isotopesope View Post
    why not just get BD's single speed cx bike?
    I've been looking at one of those myself. It amazes me how they can offer it that cheap. I'd have to do a lot of dumpster diving to get something that nice that cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cs1 View Post
    I've been looking at one of those myself. It amazes me how they can offer it that cheap. I'd have to do a lot of dumpster diving to get something that nice that cheap.
    Um . . . you can get a clockwork or SST from the same site for $70 less with better hubs and rims (albeit on a non-cross frame, and you could probably only fit tires up to 30mm or so), or a lightning cross for $50 more with 2200 brifters/fd and sora RD and better rims (which of course is no longer SS).

    Of course, if what you're looking for is a single speed cross bike, by all means its a pretty good deal - I don't think i could find a cross bike with horizontal dropouts anywhere near that price.

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    so is the consensus that 700x30 cx tires should fit this bike?

    for what i'm looking for, its already SS, it has brakes, its cheap, and it will be delivered to me ready to ride, doesnt look like i can go wrong as long as the tires fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryScientist View Post
    so is the consensus that 700x30 cx tires should fit this bike?

    for what i'm looking for, its already SS, it has brakes, its cheap, and it will be delivered to me ready to ride, doesnt look like i can go wrong as long as the tires fit.
    edit: everything removed, cuz it was all of the wrong bike
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    Frame and fork are drilled to accept front and rear road brakes.
    This bike DOES come with brakes

    right from the BD web site. i was looking into getting an orange Clockwork myself. i love the color and the price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meepers View Post
    Frame and fork are drilled to accept front and rear road brakes.
    This bike DOES come with brakes

    right from the BD web site. i was looking into getting an orange Clockwork myself. i love the color and the price.
    Whoops my bad, I got it confused with the "The Hour"

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryScientist View Post
    so is the consensus that 700x30 cx tires should fit this bike?

    for what i'm looking for, its already SS, it has brakes, its cheap, and it will be delivered to me ready to ride, doesnt look like i can go wrong as long as the tires fit.
    looking at the pictures, it appears there would be room in the stays and fork... assuming that's the spec'ed 25c road tire. it also looks like the calipers might be long reach. the pads seem close toward the bottom of the reach as well. makes me think there's decent clearance. also, the brakes often cause the clearance problems more than the frame when cramming fat tires into road bikes. i wouldn't be suprised if you could get a fat 32 in there. or maybe city/touring treaded 35's. you just won't have any mud clearance.

    they both are cheap single speeds with brakes, that both come partially assembled. sure, the clockwork is "cheaper", but are you getting a compromise or exactly what you want? you'll still have to buy cross tires for it. then your cost is close to the cx one. the gear ratio on the cx would probably be better for trail riding too... so if you want to change the ratio of the clockwork, it would be another additional cost... plus, would you rather have lots of tire/mud clearance or limited clearance just to save a few bucks?

    the only real bummer is that the cx only has chicken levers. i'd want aero levers too. i guess you have to decide which one is a worse compromise: cost or tire clearance. when you say you want to "hit the trails", i think big fat tires would be sweet. also, i think cross bikes work much better as road bikes, than road bikes work as cross bikes.
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    very good points isotope, i didnt really even think about brake clearance, that could be an issue.

    i think i may just spend some more money and move away from the BD route alltogether. the more i think about it, the more well rounded this bike should be to me, and i dont want to cheap out now and drop a ton of cash later upgrading the thing

    decisions decisions...

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    I can understand wanting to walk away from the BD choices altogether, but between the Dawes and the Motobecane I'd say the choice is clear. It'll already come with cross tires, and you can pick up a great set of aero levers in the Tektro R200 for around 20 bucks. You'll be glad to have canilever brakes when on the trails and when riding in wet/snowy/muddy conditions. It will have all the clearance you need for both knobbies and fenders, something that shouldn't be overlooked.

    I also know you said you didn't have the time to build something up, but keep your eyes peeled on eBay/craigslist for a Bianchi Volpe or some other sort of nice older touring/cross hybrid kind of rig. The Volpe is a great frame that will be likely to come with some nice mid 90s components and also has the advantage of wide tire clearance and cantilever bosses. For about the same money as the Bikes Direct offerings you can probably pick up a bike with significantly better tubing/craftmanship and a nicer components, replacing individual parts as you see fit.

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    the motobecane cross uno is an awesome bike, seriously you are getting a great deal on that bike. I raced mine all season and have no complaints, i even got lots of compliments at the races when everyone elses bike cost 2, 3, 4 or 5 times as much.

    if you want a SS cross bike, get the SS cross bike, you wont be dissapointed, and aero levers are cheap, i got a great set of tektros for $20 brand new on ebay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axcxnj View Post
    the motobecane cross uno is an awesome bike, seriously you are getting a great deal on that bike. I raced mine all season and have no complaints, i even got lots of compliments at the races when everyone elses bike cost 2, 3, 4 or 5 times as much.

    if you want a SS cross bike, get the SS cross bike, you wont be dissapointed, and aero levers are cheap, i got a great set of tektros for $20 brand new on ebay.
    you raced your single speed against geared riders? how did that work out? i too am interested in a new cyclocross bike. i made a fixed/singlespeed bike thats good on trails and gravel (wide tires and cantalever brake) but i don't think it will work for racing. Its heavy and too slow for that. I want something better now so that i can train all summer and race next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by degnaw View Post
    or a lightning cross for $50 more with 2200 brifters/fd and sora RD and better rims (which of course is no longer SS).
    you could get this, sell the group, probably keep the crank get a spacer kit, tensioner, and aero brake levers.

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    Racing SS is just like racing anything else...easier in my opinion...i just have to focus on pedaling hard, not what gear im in. This was my first season, and i managed to go from dfl to mid pack by the end of the season. next season i hope to grab a few top 10 finishes



    Quote Originally Posted by Ride Among Us View Post
    you raced your single speed against geared riders? how did that work out? i too am interested in a new cyclocross bike. i made a fixed/singlespeed bike thats good on trails and gravel (wide tires and cantalever brake) but i don't think it will work for racing. Its heavy and too slow for that. I want something better now so that i can train all summer and race next season.

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