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Old 10-01-09, 06:45 PM   #1
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Brakes

This had probably been done, but what's a decent brake?
I'm looking at the Tektro CR720, Avid Shorty 6 and TRP Euro X. I can also get Cane Creek's and Shimano's. Pads aren't a consideration, since i've already got some Salmon's.

Any suggestions? I'm leaning towards the Shorty and Euro X.
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I love my euro X. The standard Euro X doesn't have the "adjust" brake pad holders which allow for easy toe in. But the Newer carbon and Mags have the adjust pads. Or you can just bend the posts on the pad holders (which i did last year)
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I'm with Nitro. Just make sure you don't bend the posts while they are in the brakes. Take them out and put them in a vise and use a wrench.
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I was surprised by how much the shimano br550s really didn't suck. I've had decent luck with the avid shortys, too.

Sorry, not much experience with the more boutique options.
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My shorty keeps sticking on one side. I may have fixed the problem by taking the spring and bending it so it applies more pressure to open the brake. This even happened in a race. For that reason I don't recommend the Avid Shorty that came on my Trek XO1.
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Bill, do you have the 4's or the 6's?
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TRP's are quite choice. I've been running the TRP Carbons since last year and I love them. You won't be disappointed. Not sure if they are out yet, but check out the FSA cantis, they look pretty awesome too.
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I'm with Nitro. Just make sure you don't bend the posts while they are in the brakes. Take them out and put them in a vise and use a wrench.
Yeah I forgot to mention that.

Stick the post in a vice and use the box end of a combo wrench and bend the post/holder
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I'm really liking the wide profile CR720 on the front and whatever low profile in the back (i have cane creek but wouldn't notice if anyone changed them to any of the others: it's a rear brake - if it'll lock up when i want to slide the wheel around, that's all i need out of it). Dual-compound Koolstop pads are nice.
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TRP EuroX!
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if you race in mud you want to go with a wide canti

if not you can run low profiles. I use the shorty 4s in the SW. Terrible mud clearance, but that is rarely a factor here
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I just swapped my Shorty 4's for Cr 720's. No matter what I did I could not get my short's to stop squealing and they had jack for stopping power. So far, my cr720's are a ton better. However, I have only had them on for a week.
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bending

could you give more detail on bending post please
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why not pauls?

i really want the white trps but besides the price im worried about scraping my leg against the back brakes like I already do with my kore brakes
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No reason not to go pauls. They are a little pricey but I love the way mine feel. In over a year I have not had one issue or even had to adjust them once other than a slight cable tension adj. as the pads wore.
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http://publish.velonews.com/tech/rep...es/9054.0.html

nice article about CX brakes
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I've got the Euro X mags. Super light and I stop, so I can't complain. They come with two sets of pads, one for carbon the other for alu wheels. They look pretty cool too...if you are into looks.

Alfred E. Bike has last years (white/gold) for about $200. If I didn't get these I was going with Paul's based on his reputation, light too.
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Around here, I hear mud is very present almost weekly, and after reading that Velonews article, I'm still not sure how to go.
I used to race cars, and even in road racing, I need a powerful brake, so the shorter designs may be more for me, despite their unfriendliness towards mud.
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You are still young. Run the low profiles this year and if you aren't satisfied with mud clearance, then switch next year. Or mid season.
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That's probably what I should do. I can get them for cheap.
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Around here, I hear mud is very present almost weekly, and after reading that Velonews article, I'm still not sure how to go.
I used to race cars, and even in road racing, I need a powerful brake, so the shorter designs may be more for me, despite their unfriendliness towards mud.
In the limited racing I have done in the mud my low profiles packed up extremely quickly and slowed me considerably.

If you are racing in the mud you are going to be going slow for the most part so braking power isnt of highest priority, but clearance is. If mud is really ubiquitous in your area I would grab some CR720s and throw on salmon pads and really play with that straddle cable height to try and get a good feel out of them.

If you really want lo pro brakes I imagine a bunch of experienced riders in your area may have them collecting dust and would sell them on the cheap.
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How about the Velo Orange Grenouille? It looks like a frogleg brake, but has cartridge shoes and only costs $45 for the whole bike. They do a Grand Cru version that comes with adjustable pads.

http://www.velo-orange.com/grcabr.html
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I like my kores. Lots of room, and they are pretty cheap

http://store.icyclesusa.com/shared/S...rce=googlebase
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How about the Velo Orange Grenouille? It looks like a frogleg brake, but has cartridge shoes and only costs $45 for the whole bike. They do a Grand Cru version that comes with adjustable pads.

http://www.velo-orange.com/grcabr.html
do you ride those? If so how much "gentle bending" was needed to get the toe right? Also, those look like older style cartridge pads that were popular on cantis in the mid to late 90s; how easy is it to get a replacement cartridge for those?
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Those Grenouilles look a lot like the rivendell ribbits - I didn't like those at all due to a freakin' ton of slop at the pivot point.
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