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    Questions about Portland races

    I will be in Portland working up at OHSU from October 23rd to November 9th. I might bring my bike and get a couple races in. Here are the races I found online for that time frame that I could possible make:

    10/24 Williamette Valley Cross Series - Salem
    10/25 Cross Crusade - Hillsboro
    10/31 Cross Crusade - Astoria
    11/1 Cross Crusade - Astoria
    11/7 Williamette Valley Cross Series - Salem (Norba championships)
    11/8 Cross Crusade - Portland

    Will a Norba license get me into these? Can anybody ride in the championship race or is this limited? I am a beginner and have only done three races, 36 yrs old, what time slot should I ride Cross Crusade (see below)? Do these fill up, or am I safe to register the day of? Are there any Wednesday (or other) night rides I could jump in? PM me if you want to car pool.

    Cross Crusade Race Schedulee
    8:50am Beginners, Unicycles A&B* (40 min)
    9:40am Category C, Cyldesdale (45 min)
    10:45am Masters Category C 35+ (45 min)
    11:40am Masters Category B 35+, Masters 50+ and Jrs (45 min)
    1:00pm Category B and Single Speed (45 min)

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    Hocker,
    I'm not sure, but I think you'll need an OBRA license, which I believe is about 20$ for the year. The only Wed. night races I know of are the Blind Date a the Dairy series but that is over on 10/14. I was just looking at that championship race and it did look like anybody could register, but again, you should confirm that. Good luck and enjoy your stay in Portland, it's a great bike town!

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    I also think you need an OBRA (not NORBA) license. It's only $10 for the year for CX only and you can register for it the day of a race.

    There's no limit on the number of riders, but you should plan on sharing the course with 100+ other people at the crusade races. You could race beginner, C or Master C, beginner is good if you don't mind getting up early.

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    Oh yeah, some more details.... If you get there before the beginner's race you'll have plenty of time to pre-ride the course. There tends not to be a lot of time between races to do this, as the back of the field finishes well after the front.

    The October 24 Willamette Valley race is going to be on a defunct golf course. I did this race last year, and it was very fun -- very flat, grassy (obviously), went through a couple of sand traps.

    The October 25 race is at the Washington County Fairgrounds. It's also very flat. Last year it was insanely muddy, and I would expect that again this year. It went through a rodeo arena, which was so sloppy that those of us in the lower classes had to run the entire length. See photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/2638250...7609330193445/

    Astoria -- I don't know anything about the course, but I hear this is lots of fun. One race will be a costume race, so come prepared. Here's a video from last year (I think -- YouTube wasn't responding so I can't verify): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnDCpUdF8JY

    I don't know anything about the other two.

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    I'll back up what others have said. OBRA license, $10 for CX only for the season. Cross Crusade races are a hoot. Come join the fun, Andy and I both race the beginner class for the Crusade races, let us know when you will be there.
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    I've decided that not bringing my bike would be foolish. $10 for a license is incredible, nice job ORBA! I am definitely doing the Cross Crusade races, I rented a car for the weekends of the 25th and 31st. The plan is to do get in the 8:50 beginner slots. If anybody wants to car pool (I will be staying in SW) or wants to do a midweek ride let me know.

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    For the weekend of the 31st you should skip the car and rent camping gear. It's that kind of weekend.

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    Do the Astoria race on Sunday if you can, it's the Halloween race and most people will be in fancy dress, ton of fun! If you do the Washington county fairground race, be prepared for the "$hit pit".

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    "$hit pit" huh, what kind of tires should bring for that? Seriously, what type of tire are you all using? Not that I am going to buy new ones (maybe I should) but I suspect conditions are bit different compared to Boulder/Denver hard pack.

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    The forecast calls for the rain to start next Monday and continue for six months after that, so definitely expect lots mud. I'm still using the stock tires that came with my bike (Maxxis Mocust CX), but I've got Michelin Mud2's high on my wish list.

    What Mongo is referring to, however, is the bio-mud in the rodeo arena at the fairgrounds. I find it's best not to think too much about what's actually in there. Anyway, if it's like it was last year, the tread on your shoes may be more important than the tread on your tires. I saw a couple of juniors lose their shoes in that pit and finish the race barefooted. Those young guys are hard core.

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    I found out that my ACA (Colorado) license works for OBRA races and vise versa. They have a reciprocal agreement in place. Probably a better deal for OBRA members considering an ACA license is $40.

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    I registered for this weekends races, after Sunday we'll see. At Battlecreek I am in with the beginner men, and on Sunday the Master C 35+. An 8:50 am start on a Sunday is a little too early for me...and I didn't want to risk getting passed by a unicycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hocker View Post
    "$hit pit" huh, what kind of tires should bring for that? Seriously, what type of tire are you all using? Not that I am going to buy new ones (maybe I should) but I suspect conditions are bit different compared to Boulder/Denver hard pack.
    Something with deep knobs made for mud riding. Not file tread. A lot of guys here run Hutchinson Bulldogs or Michelin Mudd2. I'm running tubular with Tufo Cubus tires.

    Last year all the C's ran the $hit pit. Most of the B's and all the A's rode it, which is probably significantly faster if you can keep on your wheels. This year, we haven't had a huge amount of rain yet, so it might be less of a water trough and more of a standard mud pit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MONGO! View Post
    Do the Astoria race on Sunday if you can, it's the Halloween race and most people will be in fancy dress, ton of fun! If you do the Washington county fairground race, be prepared for the "$hit pit".
    Be prepared though. If you aren't in costume on Sunday at Astoria (the designated "costume race") you'll get heckled mercilessly every single lap. My team has something special planned...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hocker View Post
    An 8:50 am start on a Sunday is a little too early for me...and I didn't want to risk getting passed by a unicycle.
    I'm completely with you on both counts, although that is the group I'll be in. If you get a bad draw on starting slot and there are a lot of bottlenecks early in the course, getting caught by the unicyclists is a very real danger.

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    So what did you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
    So what did you think?
    Stellar!

    First off, the Portland cross scene puts Colorado to shame. Not that it isn’t great in Colorado, but I can't imagine something like Cross Crusade happening every weekend over a season in Colorado. Maybe in time. The folks that run CC do a fantastic job, I am really impressed.

    So to the races...
    Sunday. I had the time wrong for my race so I accidently raced with the C's instead of the Master C's. I even asked someone at the start which race it was and he said Master C...not sure what he was thinking, not sure why I didn’t notice everyone was way younger than me. 134 people in a mass start on a narrow path was a little unnerving to say the least, so I kind just took it easy at first...mostly because I was petrified. After the first few corners I was able to start moving up. I stuck with a group of about 7 guys and we traded positions and passed people for most of the race. Unknowingly we worked together. A couple things stood out to me. First, riding in deep mud is something that requires some practice because without failure I got passed every time we hit the large mud pit. It baffled me because it seemed like I was pushing hard. I was also surprised to see people falling so much. I have never seen pile ups like that before. I ended up 52nd.

    My race on Saturday was really fun too. Buy Local put together a fantastic course. On the first lap a guy fell right in front of me and caused me a pretty big gap. When I tried to bridge to the leaders I found myself alone and accidently followed an old golf cart path off the course into no-man’s land. I was pretty embarrassed as everyone passed by me while I waited to jump back on the course at the spot I left it. On subsequent laps a guy was standing there so nobody (I) made the same mistake. I spent the rest of the race chasing people down, I ended up 5th in the beginners.

    Although I had some mishaps, I had a blast. I am still pretty wiped out, but if anybody wants to get in some training PM me. I may head up to Forest Park on Wednesday.

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    Ah, so you're the rider with no name in the C results. Nice results both days.

    It's quite a contrast between the race in Salem and the one in Hillsboro, huh? I made it down to Salem, but my daughter got sick before we even registered, so I didn't see much. I don't understand why more people don't come out for those non-Crusade races. I'm sure it has something to do with the atmosphere at the Crusade.

    The mass start with 100+ people is kind of like learning to ride on the side of the road next to auto traffic. Very freaky at first, but you get used to it.

    Are you coming out to Astoria? It should be a bit smaller field of riders -- maybe halfway between Hillsboro and Battlecreek.

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