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Recreational Cyclocross and Gravelbiking This has to be the most physically intense sport ever invented. It's high speed bicycle racing on a short off road course or riding the off pavement rides on gravel like :The Dirty Kanza". We also have a dedicated Racing forum for the Cyclocross Hard Core Racers.

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Old 10-14-09, 08:15 AM   #1
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True outlaw cross

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/video?id=7053829

I have always wanted to go to this event but it happens on a day that I work.
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wow.. Hands on their weapons huh? What do they think they are going to do? Squirt them with their water bottles? I can see the city side of it though. They should have obtained permission first.
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Old 10-14-09, 09:40 AM   #3
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Unapproved use of the land is lame and the city is within its rights to stop the race.

That said, I can't imagine why the race couldn't be held in a manner that minimized erosion and other damage. Seems like if a city has green space, it should be available to the citizens for reasonable use.
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Seems like if a city has green space, it should be available to the citizens for reasonable use.
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MY understanding is that he had permission, but someboday has since gotten a bug up their butt and decided that it is not good.

Honestly, since White Oak bayou is a concrete lined drainage ditch, the small surface area of the CX course is not going to cause any bank erosion...
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Even if they did have permission, the department probably looked over the area again and saw the damage the bikes were doing and decided to put a stop to it. From the video it sure looked like they were doing some serious damage. I disagree about it not going to cause erosion. Everything below the area path that the bikes are making is subseptible to erosion. I think they did the right thiing.
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If you want to hold an underground cross series, you have to be a little more sneaky and clever than holding it in the same location week after week after week.

Which also solves the whole rutting and erosion problem.
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Every week in the exact same spot rutting up what looks like a flood control/drainage area? The concrete lined ditch is to take the water away, all that grass area is basically going to slow the water down. If that were dirt and there was a big rain it would cut right through it and produce massive ruts and the ditch would be taking away soil as much as water. Now that there's patches of dirt a big rain could easily do the exact same thing in those spots.

Every week? Sorry, I'm on the city's side on this one. Once a season would be reasonable but their once a week racing has clearly caused damage. I mean, that whole area is a watershed, right?
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i'm also with the city on this one
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I know buffalo bayou is a natural bayou but how is this different from say the mtb trails at memorial park, mtb trails at terry hershey, or the non paved sections at allen park way? Allen parkway and memorial drive have yet to fall into the bayou. Are the concrete bayous more delicate than the natural ones?
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scientific arguments aside...

it's part of the city's easement. and they were trespassing.
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I know buffalo bayou is a natural bayou but how is this different from say the mtb trails at memorial park, mtb trails at terry hershey, or the non paved sections at allen park way? Allen parkway and memorial drive have yet to fall into the bayou. Are the concrete bayous more delicate than the natural ones?
I'm not at all familiar with the trails you mention, but in general, permanent trails would be designed with erosion control and drainage in mind. Trails wouldn't follow the fall line (most direct way for water down a hill), stuff like that.
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I would be doing it if I was still in H-Town
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