I have a 2009 Presidio and I love it. I don't have anything bad to say about it at all! I went with a road setup with a spare wheel-set with cyclocross tires for mud-time. The bike is surprisingly light for steel and feels very nimble and quick on the road. The only other thing I changed were the brakes, and I went with shorty 6 vs the shorty 4. If you can find a 2009, that is the bike to have. It is the last year of the US made steel frame.