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Old 08-23-04, 03:16 PM   #1
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Bianchi Axis

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I wanna get into CX, and basically, I would start from an old steel frame, but ideally, I think its not worth putting money into it if I will later have to upgrade to a better frame.

I work at a shop, and can get Bianchis cheaper. I was thinking of the Axis. How is this as a begginer bike? I dont think I'll like that triple and such, but at 22lbs and probably sub 600 USD, I think its pretty good.

Any reviews on the Axis and it's performace and possible any suggestions?(I can get Fuji cross bikes also, but I think Bianchis are better overall.

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Old 08-23-04, 03:34 PM   #2
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If you can get an axis for under $600.00 I would jump on it. The MSRP is $1,299.00.
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Old 08-24-04, 05:34 AM   #3
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I am currently awaiting for delivery of a 49cm 2005 Axis. I test rode 44 and 52cm versions and it seems like a great cyclocross bike and can be used as a commuter/touring/road bike as well! If you can get it cheap as a Bianchi dealer I would go for it!
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fwiw, i think the fuji is a better race bike. the slightly slacker head tube will help over the rough stuff without compromisingthe agressive position. the axis is really specced as a glorified touring bike, with triple chainrings, a wide=range cassette and a square-tapered crank. the first thing that i would do, if i was going to race the axis is replace the bottom bracket with a splined unit, replace the crankset with a double, and replace the casette and rd with a road rd and a shorter cassette. waitasec... i just turned a bianchi into a fuji!
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I have an '04 Axis. It's an awesome bike, all around. My only complaint is that the front brakes (Shimano 105 STI) are almost useless on anything other than a dry, flat paved surface. Otherwise you get the shudders something fierce. Have tried just about everything to correct the problem w/ out much luck. Other than that, tho, it's a great ride.

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Velocipedio,
I was thinking the same thing. The axis seems more of a touring bike and just didnt appear in my head as a true CX bike. I would actually get the Fuji at probably the same price, but I guess I need to give it more thought.
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I would say that the Axis is not just a glorified touring bike, although like any cross bike, it can be used as such. The axis does have rack/fender mounts in the rear and fender mounts in the front. The triple chainrings are set up like a mountain bike, not like a road touring bike. Also the bottom bracket is higher up than it would be on a pure touring bike. The cables run along the top tube, not along the down tube and around the bottom bracket like a road bike. The Axis uses a bottom-pull road front derailleur, necessitating a down-tube pully to convert the top-tube -> seat tube front derailleur cable to bottom-pull set up. The idea is that when going over obstacles you don't want anything on the down tube or bottom bracket shell to catch on something...
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okay, sab, it's an off-road touring bike.

the gearing is just wrong for racing. any hill that would require a 26x32 is better run... in fact any hill that would require 36x28 would be better taken on foot. such low gearing is just unnecessary in the sport of cyclo-cross. the triple chainring is a disaster waiting to happen in a race. it increases the angle of the chainline and is a prime area for mud clog. i think the axis is a nice bike, i just don't think it's much of a racing cyclo-cross bike. and if you're not racing, you're not doing cyclo-cross; you're riding a road bike off-road.
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I am seriously looking at an Axis because I want a nice road-ish bike to take on Houston roads. Road bike killers is what these streets are. I need to be able to jump curbs and bunny hop, as well. All terrain road bike.
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okay, sab, it's an off-road touring bike.

the gearing is just wrong for racing. any hill that would require a 26x32 is better run... in fact any hill that would require 36x28 would be better taken on foot. such low gearing is just unnecessary in the sport of cyclo-cross. the triple chainring is a disaster waiting to happen in a race. it increases the angle of the chainline and is a prime area for mud clog. i think the axis is a nice bike, i just don't think it's much of a racing cyclo-cross bike. and if you're not racing, you're not doing cyclo-cross; you're riding a road bike off-road.
The 2003 model came with a double. Not sure why they added the granny but it's easy enough to remove. In fact the 2003 uses the same crank, just without the granny ring.
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It looks as though this is probably a more suitable bike than the Cross Concept for me. I was also looking at litespeed but I could not locate their cyclocross bikes.
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