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Old 09-25-04, 11:00 PM   #1
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What to use to pad shoulder while portaging?

My new Redline hurts my shoulder like crazy when I carry it. Does anyone use some kind of padding on the shoulder or padding on the frame tubes? The tubes on my Axis are squarish shaped to be more comfortable while shouldering but the round tubes hurt much more.
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I don't know of any padding and have never seen anyone using it but you probably could use some of that foam tubing that is split down the center so you can fit it over tubes like say for a bike rack or some such thing. Or perhaps even winter pipe wrap stuff at a hardware store. You'ld have to tape it up and around the frame tubes.

What I do is grab the down tube and hold it up off my shoulder on long run ups to take the pressure off.
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there is this great padding called muscle. you should get some for your shoulders.
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there is this great padding called muscle. you should get some for your shoulders.
Interesting, I thought the same thing (what if I had more upper body meat?). I've never liked "weight lifting" though so maybe I'll have to find a way to make it fun and/or more interesting.
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Yeah, mine hurt when I started. I figured out a better positioning where the bike is almost balanced on its own on my shoulder. The frame is almost flat against my back, right elbow crook under the downtube and hand on the left side of handlebar. This is the most comfortable for me and I can carry it on the steep run ups.

BTW, did you do Pilarcitos today at Candelstick? They screwed up and it listed me as first place (even announced it) even though I was one of the last. But not the last person! I actually had a few people beat (about 4 or 5) coming into the 3rd lap but I screwed up in the parking lot area. I was head down an pouring it on. I didn't look up and missed the cones of the course. Some riders yelled at me and I had to go back. Boneheaded, stupid mistake...
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Yeah I was at Candlestick. I lasted the entire Men's C and even sprinted at the finish, but I didn't have the power I needed to keep the speed up. I'm number 319. What class did you race?

I think my shoulder hurts because I tried some very long training runs while carrying my bike (like several hundred yards along a "no bikes" section of trail). The bouncing of the bike while running long distances could be the culprit. Shorter run-ups don't seem to be so bad.
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what about hitting up the local thrift shop and getting a shoulder pad from a womens jacket. they even have velcro sometimes and you could just velcro one in your jersey.
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what about hitting up the local thrift shop and getting a shoulder pad from a womens jacket. they even have velcro sometimes and you could just velcro one in your jersey.
try asking your mom for these, just about any woman who was over the age of 15 during the late 80s -early 90s will have some sort of shoulder-pad-clad clothing.
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Yeah I was at Candlestick. I lasted the entire Men's C and even sprinted at the finish, but I didn't have the power I needed to keep the speed up. I'm number 319. What class did you race?

I think my shoulder hurts because I tried some very long training runs while carrying my bike (like several hundred yards along a "no bikes" section of trail). The bouncing of the bike while running long distances could be the culprit. Shorter run-ups don't seem to be so bad.
That does sound like the culprit. You should train on 15 second run ups max...
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I actually never use any pad. In fact I don't even put the frame on my shoulder. Given that I am quite tall I find most of the frmes very hard to carry on my shoulder. Instead, I grab the saddle from underside with my right hand and then lift it just above my right sholder. I found this to be less painfull. The only drawback is that the front of the bike is not so stable so you'll have to use your left arm to hold it still.
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Wow, "ask your Mom for shoulder pads"
Dude, just get out there and ride! The shouldering discomfort will go away with training and time. Any new stress on your body will dissapear with proper training, stretching and technique.
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Yeah I was at Candlestick. I lasted the entire Men's C and even sprinted at the finish, but I didn't have the power I needed to keep the speed up. I'm number 319. What class did you race?

I think my shoulder hurts because I tried some very long training runs while carrying my bike (like several hundred yards along a "no bikes" section of trail). The bouncing of the bike while running long distances could be the culprit. Shorter run-ups don't seem to be so bad.
I was in your cat too. #332 on the silver/blue IF. I sprinted the finish too, but mostly cause I refused to get lapped w/ in viewing distance of the finish. All for ego...

Here's some pix a friend took. Her husband's working on getting her timing just right...

Pilarcitos Candlestick
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Yeah, mine hurt when I started. I figured out a better positioning where the bike is almost balanced on its own on my shoulder. The frame is almost flat against my back, right elbow crook under the downtube and hand on the left side of handlebar. This is the most comfortable for me and I can carry it on the steep run ups.
Say, got a quick question for you. I use the same method except my saddle keeps on knocking against my helmet. Do you experience that?
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Say, got a quick question for you. I use the same method except my saddle keeps on knocking against my helmet. Do you experience that?
Same problem here. At the Sycip clinic, I asked about it. They said you need to have the bike centered on your shoulder more. But keep in mind, I'm 5' 6" on a 48" frame. Not a lot of top tube to balance...

So yes, my head does hit the seat still. But by holding it more on my whole back, it helps relieve it some. On the run ups, I just duck my head a little. Which is OK, since during a race, I have almost no energy to even lift my head... I've been waiting for my helmet to get caught, but I've been lucky so far.
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Pretty good pics. I've seen the guy you're with at previous races last year (guy on the bike with flames on the top tube). Can't wait to see the Abbiorca photos.

I'll try training with shorter bike carrys. Maybe I don't have to change the way I carry the bike after all.
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Same problem here. At the Sycip clinic, I asked about it. They said you need to have the bike centered on your shoulder more. But keep in mind, I'm 5' 6" on a 48" frame. Not a lot of top tube to balance...

So yes, my head does hit the seat still. But by holding it more on my whole back, it helps relieve it some. On the run ups, I just duck my head a little. Which is OK, since during a race, I have almost no energy to even lift my head... I've been waiting for my helmet to get caught, but I've been lucky so far.
We're almost the same height, I'm 5'7". Yesterday's event, I had to keep looking down as I was tired & too many tree roots to hike over on the run up (more like a walk up for me). So, I did not have to much of an issue of head knocking.
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Hey, I was at the Candlestick race yesterday and raced in the Men's "C" group too.

It was my first cross race, and man was it hard. Kinda embarrassing but I was working so hard I was drooling and foaming at the mouth. After all that I finished towards the back, in 25th place.

But now I'm hooked, it sure was a blast!
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Is that out in the desert? It looked very dry and sandy...
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It was like beach dunes with lots of beach grass and some sandy sections. No mud but very rutted with snake/gopher holes. I'm glad I let air out of the tires. I could have let more out be there was a pretty long section of pavement.
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Hey dessert1st, 25th is very respectable in my book. I know there's got to have been some crit riders and MTB racers mixed in, so they've definitely got me beat in terms of straight mileage. I saw that 2 of the Pen Velo guys were in the top half, my coworker rides crit for them but doesn't have a CX, yet... Frustrating to be 31 of 33, but hell it was still fun. As long as I move up week to week, I'm OK. I started to do intervals to help last week. Holy crap was I tired the rest of the afternoon...

Yeah, a lot of washboards on the flat switchbacks they configured. BIG gopher holes, I'm surprised I never endo'ed in them, but apparently some riders in C's did.

We watched some of the A's/B's race afterwards near the double barriers. One guy tried to remount and he landed stomach first on his seat. CRACK! Broke his carbon seatpost. He ripped it off in frustation and walked off the course.

My buddy, who's in the pic, got me to "drink the kool aid" and start this whole crazy mess. This is his 3rd season. He just converted his IF to 1x9 after getting it last month. I was definitely jealous of the flame job. I told him I'll one up him soon by getting a Steelman. But after yesterday, I may change that to a yellow Rock Lobster...

I'm hoping Abiorca caught me. I know at the end when I was dragging the back solo, one of the photogs was near the 2nd steep run up when I tried to blast up. Hopefully she got it and I look good.

BTW, did anyone see the guy in the 10 AM race w/ the SS? Talk about punishment... There was a brakeless fixie in C's too. Don't know how he did.

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'yer a good sport, blaster.
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