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Old 03-24-11, 05:22 AM   #1
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Replace Tricross Triple with BD Fantom Cross Rival?

Here's a question for you guys:

I'm into road cycling....already have a Cervelo S1. But I also have an entry level CX bike that I tool around on with the family or for a nice commute to work. Its a Specialized Tricross Triple (2010 with Shimano 2300 8 spd).

The S1 has Ultegra...so you would imagine the difference between 6600 SL and 2300 thumbshifters and a clunky triple.

My S1 is also a 56, while the tricross is a 58. The more I ride the 56, the more stretched out I feel on the 58.

My two options:

1) Sell the tricross for 700-800 bucks and buy a Motobecane Fantom Cross with SRAM rival for $999. I'd get a 56.

2) Keep the tricross and upgrade the gruppo to Rival or Force for 600-700 bucks.

Does anyone have experience with the BD bike? Is the frame (aluminum with carbon fork) comparable to a Tricross frame?
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Old 03-24-11, 05:32 AM   #2
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Since your current frame is already a bit large, I'd get the new bike. Obviously you already know and prefer upgraded shifters. I would double check the geometry/sizing though. You may find the next size down to be preferable due to more upright riding style of tooling around town.
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There's no comparison between the Fantom Cross frame and the TriCross (I have both - a TriCross Comp and a Fantom Cross Outlaw). The Fantom is brutally stiff and buzzy in comparison. It also has a standard geometry (horizontal top tube) and shorter head tube than the Tricross, so the riding position is more aggressive. I find mine very fatiguing to ride off road and use it as a commuter mostly, and a slop weather bike a couple times per year. It's also heavier.

If you like the way your TriCross rides, you'd be better off selling it and picking up a used 56cm, or maybe keeping it, getting a shorter stem, and upgrading the components.
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There's no comparison between the Fantom Cross frame and the TriCross (I have both - a TriCross Comp and a Fantom Cross Outlaw). The Fantom is brutally stiff and buzzy in comparison. It also has a standard geometry (horizontal top tube) and shorter head tube than the Tricross, so the riding position is more aggressive. I find mine very fatiguing to ride off road and use it as a commuter mostly, and a slop weather bike a couple times per year. It's also heavier.

If you like the way your TriCross rides, you'd be better off selling it and picking up a used 56cm, or maybe keeping it, getting a shorter stem, and upgrading the components.
Thanks for that. I do love how the Tricross rides, and the geometry is a bit more advanced than the Fantom. As well, i just read that BD doesn't ship to Canada, so that option is fading fast. I'll probably end up with a component upgrade instead.
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I have a fantom frame, and enjoy the slightly aggressive positioning.

I would get a Fantom with Rival in heartbeat if I could, for what its worth. I actually am planning to upgrade my Fantom (got it as just a frame) with Rival soon.
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had a fantom cross for a few years before it was stolen and it was really good bike but when I a friend let me borrow his tricross comp for a weekend I must admit it was a sweeter ride. I wouldn't think twice about getting another fantom cross though I been playing with the idea for about a year now. Good bike for a great buy.
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I ride the fantom in a 64. it's a bit flexy for my taste... I am looking at specialized, trek, c-dale and scotts for next season. The fantom also has a bit short of a head tube compared to the long TTs for us tall guys
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