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    Weird question about a new purchase - CAADX

    Thought I'd run this by a forum first:

    I purchased a CAADX Tiagra last week and noticed that the front derailleur is actually Sora. Think I should go back to the bike shop? Bike is brand new. Maybe it's Obvious.

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    I doubt you'd ever notice a difference, but the online spec for that bike does say it has a Tiagra front derailleur. I'd at least double check all the other components, and probably go back to the LBS and ask them about it. I suspect they'll tell you that's the way it came to them.

    The 2010 Cannondale Cyclocross 6 had some Sora parts, so maybe it's a transitional artifact (like a 2010.5 model).

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    fwiw - I've noticed it is not unusual for the FD to be lower spec that the rest of the components on the bike and the RD to be higher. For instance a bike might be mainly Tiagra, but a Sora FD and a 105 RD. Personally I use the RD far more than the FD so I think it's a trade-off that makes sense.

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    The caveat on almost all vendor's spec sheet is "subject to change without notice", so I doubt you have any grounds here. The only exception would be if the sales person specifically told you that exact bike you were buying had a tiagra FD, and even then, what would you want as compensation, a waterbottle? The price of one bottle is probably more than the difference between a Sora and a Tiagra FD. Besides, you'll probably find lots of other things on that bike you want to upgrade long before you feel the need to go from Sora to Tiagra.

    EDIT: From the C'Dale site:
    SPECIFICATION CHANGES & UPDATES We do our best to ensure web content accurately reflects exact product spec. However, as changes occur, there may be brief delays in site updates. We reserve the right to make spec changes to improve products without prior notification, which may cause short-term differences in the information listed on the web.
    In this case, "improve the product" could mean (a) we don't have enough tiagra derailleurs and don't want to wait to ship, or (b) we want to keep the cost down, rather than the obvious "this is a better part".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchdog View Post
    fwiw - I've noticed it is not unusual for the FD to be lower spec that the rest of the components on the bike and the RD to be higher. For instance a bike might be mainly Tiagra, but a Sora FD and a 105 RD. Personally I use the RD far more than the FD so I think it's a trade-off that makes sense.
    +1 I wouldn't worry about it unless you want all your components to match (which is valid). As far as the work the bike will do, I hardly think you'll notice.

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    It really would be tough to tell the difference but honestly if it were me I would go back and ask about it. It isn't an upgrade from what is spec'ed on the C'Dale site and I won't listen to any argument that says it is. Sora is the level below Tiagra, plain and simple it is a downgraded, less expensive part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamH View Post
    Thought I'd run this by a forum first:

    I purchased a CAADX Tiagra last week and noticed that the front derailleur is actually Sora. Think I should go back to the bike shop? Bike is brand new. Maybe it's Obvious.
    I just recently bought the same bike & it's all Tiagra. That's weird.

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    If it's the same derailleur that was on the bike when you presumably test-rode and bought it, I'm not sure you have any reason to complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flargle View Post
    If it's the same derailleur that was on the bike when you presumably test-rode and bought it, I'm not sure you have any reason to complain.
    I would tend to agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamH View Post
    Thought I'd run this by a forum first:

    I purchased a CAADX Tiagra last week and noticed that the front derailleur is actually Sora.
    The same with me.
    See the differences in the catalogs of 2011:
    - US: http://cdn.cannondale.com/Manuals/2011_Cusa_English.pdf (page 35) - «REAR DERAILLEUR»
    - EUROPE: http://cdn.cannondale.com/Manuals/01...le_Catalog.pdf (page 37) - «DERAILLEURS»

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    Wow. I didn't know this. CAADX 6 Tiagra was one of the bikes that I had as a candidate when purchasing my first CX bike. They look pretty good, especially when they are Tiagra 4600. Other candidates were Giant TCX 2 and Kona Jake.

    I ultimately chose Kona Jake. I'm pretty lucky I didn't choose anything else. Japanese website for Cannondale (I live in Japan) wasn't updated yet with the 2012 models, so there were virtually no way to really know what they came with other than they are Tiagra set.

    Kona Jake is probably better, they are Tiagra 4600 but the rear derailleur is 105. They also have eyelets and yet still cheaper than CAADX 6. Maybe because of the frame which is full aluminum (I heard CAADX 6 had carbon fork), but still...I have Jake and I have no complaints whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamH View Post
    Thought I'd run this by a forum first:

    I purchased a CAADX Tiagra last week and noticed that the front derailleur is actually Sora. Think I should go back to the bike shop? Bike is brand new. Maybe it's Obvious.
    I have a 2011 CAADX Tiagra and it does have a Sora front-derailleur. I did not even notice it until I checked it upon reading this thread. However, despite being somewhat disappointed, I can say that the aluminum frame and carbon fork (the most important things IMHO) are top notch. I intend to slowly upgrade the parts when I chance on deals online.

    EDIT: I have the version with double chainring. At the shop there was also a triple chainring version which might be the Tiagra. As I said I am only mildly disappointed because: 1. I seldom use the front derailleur, 2. The bike rides beautifully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclocommuter View Post
    I can say that the aluminum frame and carbon fork (the most important things IMHO) are top notch. I intend to slowly upgrade the parts when I chance on deals online.
    100% agree with you

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    Being that I am currently in the market for what will most likely be a cyclocross bike I have noticed the following. First, many if not most new 2012 model bikes - not just cyclocross- have a higher quality rd than fd. I looked at the caadx models in one store and I do believe it was all tiagra except the fd. Now as for if this means a decrease in quality for that one component probably not. In fact I have read a more than a few reviews of the SRAM groups that people tend to prefer the apex fd over the rival fd. Only thing I can thing of for sure is that the Sora fd is likely heavier than the Tiagra. Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo734 View Post
    Being that I am currently in the market for what will most likely be a cyclocross bike I have noticed the following. First, many if not most new 2012 model bikes - not just cyclocross- have a higher quality rd than fd. I looked at the caadx models in one store and I do believe it was all tiagra except the fd. Now as for if this means a decrease in quality for that one component probably not. In fact I have read a more than a few reviews of the SRAM groups that people tend to prefer the apex fd over the rival fd. Only thing I can thing of for sure is that the Sora fd is likely heavier than the Tiagra. Hope this helps.
    Absolutely agree. RD tend to be better than FD because it's much more important, personally. I do not know about other people but I use RD much more than FD, especially since Tiagra 4600 is ten speed and has one more gear than Tiagra 4500 or Sora or 2300. So RD should be better in grade or at least the same as FD because of their usage. That's why I was extremely satisfied with Kona Jake which had 105 RD while everything else was Tiagra.

    Also, I have to note you one more on reason why you shouldn't worry as much. Tiagra 4600 (new Tiagra) may be better because now that RD is 10 speed, you could upgrade it to higher levels while former Tiagra and grades below were 9 speed so you had to upgrade the whole set that does anything to do with shifting. Sora RD is 9 speed so you can't upgrade the shifters to anything higher than Tiagra 4500 (former Tiagra). However, this does not apply to FD because FD are 2 or 3 speed and the only component that does not have 3 speed is Dura-Ace. So whether it is Sora FD or not, it doesn't really matter unless you are upgrading Shifters to Dura-Ace. Also, I think CAADX 6 was 2 speed on the front. So you need not to worry about upgrading at all. You have Tiagra 4600 on RD so upgrade won't be much of a problem.

    I have tried Sora and Tiagra, and shifting gears won't make much difference between the two. Most likely the only major difference is the weight. But Tiagra and 105 makes pretty big difference both in shifting and weight (current 105 uses a lot of the technology former Ultegra used). You shouldn't worry as much since you have Sora FD and rest being Tiagra.

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