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Old 01-19-12, 02:24 AM
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Custom cyclocross bike what would yours have/be like........

Hey all I have been looking for a new bike for about a month or so. Being that I have only rode mtb's before now I was looking into road bikes and found out about cyclocross bikes. Now that I am set on the type of bike I am having trouble finding one with all the features I want and figured I would see first what other would have for their ideal cyclobike and also if anyone has an recomendations for my ideal bike.
1. either aluminum, carbon, or titanium frame
2. carbon fork
3. internal cable routing fully housed
4. disc brakes
5. decent group set such as 105 or apex
6. and of course a sub 2k price

Now that I've described it does anyone have a match? Also I would love to hear what some of you all would like a "custom" cyclocross bike to have?
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1. Aluminum Frame
2. Carbon Fork
3. Internal Cable Routing
4. Disc Brakes
5. Dura-Ace group set
6. Mainly Black with blue and white pattern/lines/etc design (like Kona JTS 2011 model)
7. Sloping Frame
8. Eyelets in case of touring and commuting
9. Under $4.5k (Under 450k yen)
10. Allows up to 45mm width tire
11. Under 8.5 kg
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It's all about wheels and tires.
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Originally Posted by Mondo734
Hey all I have been looking for a new bike for about a month or so. Being that I have only rode mtb's before now I was looking into road bikes and found out about cyclocross bikes. Now that I am set on the type of bike I am having trouble finding one with all the features I want and figured I would see first what other would have for their ideal cyclobike and also if anyone has an recomendations for my ideal bike.
1. either aluminum, carbon, or titanium frame
2. carbon fork
3. internal cable routing fully housed
4. disc brakes
5. decent group set such as 105 or apex
6. and of course a sub 2k price

Now that I've described it does anyone have a match? Also I would love to hear what some of you all would like a "custom" cyclocross bike to have?
The internal cable routing with disc at that pricepoint is tough to find. If you give up on the internal cable routing, several models come to mind.

I have internal cable routing on my road bike, It's a great feature.
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Originally Posted by flargle
It's all about wheels and tires.
...and the gearing...
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Originally Posted by Barrettscv
The internal cable routing with disc at that pricepoint is tough to find. If you give up on the internal cable routing, several models come to mind.
+1

The Airbourne Delta was the first one I thought of. Although if you're thinking of using this as a commuter/utility bike, the Airbourne may not have eyelets for fenders.

My list would look a lot like yours.
1. either aluminum, steel, carbon, or titanium frame
2. carbon fork
3. Hydraulic disc brakes (coming soon!)
4. decent group set such as Tiagra or apex
5. Sub 2k price

I'm going to have to wait a year or two for number 3, and even then it won't meet the fifth criteria. If I were going with mechanical disc brakes, I would definitely want BB7's.
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Mondo - what do want to do with the bike - race? dirt roads/light trail riding? commute? do you ride aggressively? those are the some of the questions that should determine features and help guide your decision. what is dictating your preference for features 1-4?
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Steel

No braze-ons or water bottle bolts.

Low BB, race geo.

Threaded BB shell.

Canti mounts only.

1x10 Campy drivetrain.

1500g tubies.
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590mm VTT
190mm headtube
430mm chainstays
600mm seatmast
72.5 degree seat and head tube angles
132.5 dropout spacing
70mm BB drop
True Temper OX for 220 LBS. of rider and 40 LBS of load
Canti mounts on the seatstays and disc mounts on the chainstays
rack & fender mounts
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titanium frame, carbon fork
mech. disc brakes - BB7s
105 or preferably Ultegra drivetrain
135mm rear spacing
Wide gearing ~30s-110s gear inches without using a triple. Probably a 48/34 upfront or similar.
Can take wide tires. 45mm would be nice, 35mm doable.
Cable routing - either above top tube or internal
Eyelets for optional rear rack, ideally. i don't really need full fenders so having fender mounts doesn't matter too much - a seatpost rear fender and downtube splash guard are fine.
Under 20 lbs

This wouldn't really be for riding CX, mostly just a great all-round use bike. I love my road bike but it's not quite as versatile as I'd like.

The Lynskey Cooper CX is close to it but I can't justify the $.
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Denver~Boulder , Go shopping ..


Kiss off #6 and Moots in Colorado will build a posh Ti frame for you.

I have a Pinarello I got when the AlAn was stripped and sold.
It's steel frame and fork.. Dusty since I am old and never was competitive.

the transportation to the events was too expensive as well

Fantasy and nostalgia ?

I liked the ones Keith Bontrager built in Santa Cruz , before he became
a bought brand name of Trek Corp.

the Bolt together Switch Blade fork was clever. the dawn of the suspension forks.
They used his crown type, at first.

Siberian Sports had a source in Russia that made a tapered blade uni-crown
fork In Titanium for them , that was a metal working challenge in itself.

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Look at Salsa's Vaya. It's steel, but don't let that dissuade you. Complete bike is under your budget, and it's quite versatile.
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fietsbob is correct - go to your local bike shops (There're dozens in your neck of the woods, many specializing in 'cross bikes, both custom and out of the box: Schwab, Salvagetti, etc.), and see/test what the local racers and wannabe's are riding. Steel yourself up and take the shops' abuse with the toughness 'cross demands). This is a much better approach than living vicariously through anonymous internet ne're-do-well's.
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For me I would be using this bike as a all-round type bike. Mostly road and paved trails but with some dirt/gravel and potentially snow weather riding and light mtb trails. I just want a bike that is versital and can with minor changes do a little of everything. Some of the bikes I have been considering are the specialized crux and tricross (both 2012), maybe the ridley x-fire (not stock with disc brakes but can has the attachment points to upgrade). However I do not know how much the ridley x-fire goes for
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fietsbob is correct - go to your local bike shops (There're dozens in your neck of the woods, many specializing in 'cross bikes, both custom and out of the box: Schwab, Salvagetti, etc.), and see/test what the local racers and wannabe's are riding. Steel yourself up and take the shops' abuse with the toughness 'cross demands). This is a much better approach than living vicariously through anonymous internet ne're-do-well's.
I would like to visit some shops that have a real selection of cyclocross bikes. I have been to roughly 5-6 shops in the past week or so but they are all general bike shops (performance, treads, westside cyclery and others) but none of the stores I have been to have more than 2-4 cyclocross bikes. If you know of any shops here in denver that would be better please let me know.
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I would want a stainless steel or titanium Cross Check with a lugged frame and a few more braze-ons.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Siberian Sports had a source in Russia that made a tapered blade uni-crown
fork In Titanium for them , that was a metal working challenge in itself.
You got a link for the fork you described. I'm curious. I tried the Google but could only find info on the Sibex tubular constructed fork (a lot of which were broken, yikes). Or if you could provide some search terms (other than the ones that are already obvious) I can do the work.

Thanks,
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My current custom cyclocross/winter commuter setup:

1. On-One Dirty Disco carbon frame
2. Avid BB7 mechanical road disc brakes and Gore Ride-On sealed cables
3. SRAM Force groupset with Chris King GXP bottom bracket (black)
4. DT Swiss RR465 rims (black) with Chris King ISO Disc hubs (black)
5. Some random FSA stuff (seatpost, handlebars, headset)
6. Fizik Arione CX saddle
7. Currently running Schwalbe Marathon Supremes (700x28) for commuting

I think it was around $3.2k USD total, purchased many of the components at different times.


Only drawback I've found so far is that there are no dropouts or fender mounts (I know, it's marketed as a cyclocross race frame), so I've been having a difficult time finding decent commuting fenders. SRAM Force is decent (I like the DoubleTap action), but I really enjoy DA 7800 that's on my old road bike, it has taken five years of abuse (almost no maintenance) and is still reliable, smooth and quiet. Can't say the same with Force.
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I do not know how much the ridley x-fire goes for ..
Ridley is QBP distributed now, in the US, so ask any bike shop, with a QBP account.
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I'm confused, do you want recommendations for an off-the-shelf bike that meets your criteria, or do you want suggestions for a manufacturer that will build you what you want? "Custom" and item #6 don't belong in the same thread unless you plan on building the frame yourself.

That being said....Although it's steal and doesn't have internal routing, the Spot Brand - Sprawl offers most of what you want. It would be easy enough to order just a frame and build it up to suite your budget. Spot will also do custom mods to their steal and Ti frames if you contact them directly. I think the way they have the Sprawl spec'd on their website is little over the top. It could be built much more budget oriented. I believe the Mod could also be custom ordered with accomodations for discs.

If you really want custom, I like the suggestion of contacting Moots. Again, other than #6, some of the Moots frames would get you close right off the shelf. Ti would be uber cool, and currently I don't think there are too many CX carbon bikes that offer accomadations for discs....it is comming though.

My personal list for a "custom" CX would be:
1. Titanium with carbon fork
2. Disc brakes
3. Sliding vertical dropout
4. Belt drive compatible
5. Aggressive geometry, but still have accomadations for rack, fenders, bottle cages, and clearence for 700x45c tyres.
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Originally Posted by flargle
It's all about wheels and tires.
AMEN!!!!!!! that's all folks!
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frame, color, components are all perfect.
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frame, color, components are all perfect.
I watched those Goodrich team bikes the last two seasons, and I've decided they are my favorite cross machines.

Absolutely gorgeous in person, and I will buy one on the spot when made available to me.
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Originally Posted by Mondo734
I would like to visit some shops that have a real selection of cyclocross bikes. I have been to roughly 5-6 shops in the past week or so but they are all general bike shops (performance, treads, westside cyclery and others) but none of the stores I have been to have more than 2-4 cyclocross bikes. If you know of any shops here in denver that would be better please let me know.
Alpha bicycle company specializes in cross bikes. They are on Arapahoe just west of I-25.. I found them just last week. Ridley, surly, kona, salsa, Raleigh, niner, and I think a couple other brands. Knowledgeable and friendly', but still trying to make a sale......
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