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Old 02-27-13, 08:20 PM   #26
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What is the build quality like on this frame? I seem to see reviews go all over the place. I just picked one up myself, but I was kinda in a rush and didn't get to really really check out the quality before leaving the shop.

Did you all have to face surfaces and chase threads before mounting parts or was it good to go? How about alignment? I really look forward to building this, but I am still gathering parts.
The alignment was fine, I checked the rear triangle with a Park alignment tool. I always chase and face the headtube & BB, but the task was easy with no unusual issues.

The quality is excellent for the price but below the level of a Soma or Surly. The paint is excellent, but the welds are not filed smooth.
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Old 02-27-13, 11:22 PM   #27
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LOVING your project! I have to +2 on the "alignment was fine" when I bought mine way back in the spring of '11,been serving me well as my go-to bike ever since (both on and offroad)

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What is the build quality like on this frame? I seem to see reviews go all over the place. I just picked one up myself, but I was kinda in a rush and didn't get to really really check out the quality before leaving the shop.

Did you all have to face surfaces and chase threads before mounting parts or was it good to go? How about alignment? I really look forward to building this, but I am still gathering parts.

I've unpacked a lot of bikes from bike boxes at one of the largest independent bike shops in the country, and my experience with frames from J&B is they are really packaged in the worst packaging, and the bike frames have a chance to become easily damaged in shipping.

My 2012 cx700 came in a box that the first one actually had to be returned, and on the second, replacement frame from J&B the headtube got dented during shipping and handling. Just work with your LBS so they can put the thumbscrews to J&B if the bike arrives damaged, i wouldn't buy this frame on-line.

Quality of the frames is pretty good. welds not bubbly, solid dropouts (forkends). the frame overall is respectable, didn't need any chasing and facing except a little overspray in one of the eyelets.

Downtube cable stops are non-standard and a little hinkey, the rear triangle clearance tight between tire and front derailleur if you push some big tires in there. but that's about it.

otherwise, looking forward to doing a lot of 24 hour events on this one.



otherwise, for about 300 bucks, the Origin 8 cx700 is a very affordable frankencross frame for riders to experiment with.
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Well I had a good chance to look it over last night and I am pretty happy. The frame I see in pictures never matches the one I see in Origin-8's ads, and this one was no different.

This frame had the following differences I noticed:

-Extra reinforcement at head tube
-Horribly ugly paint job, definitely gonna repaint this.
-alright welds, nothing too fancy
-correct seeming alignment (I stuck a wheel in there)

I can't wait for the parts to come in so I can build this beast up. Here is a quick and dirty album.

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otherwise, for about 300 bucks, the Origin 8 cx700 is a very affordable frankencross frame for riders to experiment with.
I paid about the same to get it through my LBS and I am glad I did. They measured me out to make sure I got the right size (5'10, 78cm inseam) and it turns out that was the 53 instead of the 56cm size like I had thought. The stand over would have been way too high with the other one and big tires, so I am glad I went through them instead of my usual method of skimping a bit to save money. This thing has doodads to attach anything you might want, so I am really excited about building this up a few different ways.
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A couple of thoughts on tires;

I'm able to fit the 29x2" Schwalbe Marathon Supreme and Planet Bike 29er fenders on the bike with plenty of clearance. These tires are about 45mm wide on Velocity Dyad rims. The 700x47 Smart Sam will fit with fenders and is better on wet trails.

My go-fast tire for pavement and gravel is the Vittoria Hyper 700x40.
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Well I had a good chance to look it over last night and I am pretty happy. The frame I see in pictures never matches the one I see in Origin-8's ads, and this one was no different.

This frame had the following differences I noticed:

-Extra reinforcement at head tube
-Horribly ugly paint job, definitely gonna repaint this.
-alright welds, nothing too fancy
-correct seeming alignment (I stuck a wheel in there)

I can't wait for the parts to come in so I can build this beast up. Here is a quick and dirty album.

http://imgur.com/a/8wUlO
The reinforcing of the headtube is a surprise. I know this is common 29er practice, but my 2010 frame is stiff enough for 40 mph turns on pot-hole pavement. The frame is stiffer than my Soma Double Cross for sure.

Concerning the paint: Is it the flat black color that looks ugly, or is the prep-work and application insufficient?
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Concerning the paint: Is it the flat black color that looks ugly, or is the prep-work and application insufficient?
The paint quality seems fine, it seems evenly applied and of good quality, I am just not a big fan of the loud Origin-8 branding or CX-700 labels all over it. I like flat colors with no labels, so may be looking into getting this powdercoated or repainted.

Over all, I am very happy with this frame. I am waiting for some parts to show up so I can do a preliminary build and the paint doesn't bother me so much that I wouldn't be willing to ride it around as is while I save up for the paint job.
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Hey guys, so I finished my build! Here is a spec list

Frame: 2012 53cm Origin 8 CX-700 frame

Bars: On One Midge
Brakes: Hayes CX-5 disc brakes w/ 160 mm rotors
Shifters: Microshift 10 speed bar end shifters
Brake Levers: Nashbar Cane Creek knock offs
Cranks: SRAM X-5 Triple
FD: Shimano FD-R773
Rear D: Ultegra Long cage
Seat post: Bontrager sport seat post
Saddle: Brooks B-17 (from my other bike, maybe something else soon)
Wheels: 32 spoke wheelset, I rebuilt the rear wheel with an Alex TD-17 rim and the front is a WTB Dual Duty XC rim laced to Shimano 6 bolt disc hubs
Cassettte: 11-26 1030 Sram cassette
Chain: Sram 1031
Tires: Forte Tsgali 2.2 inch rear and Maxxis Crossmax 2.1 front - had to dremel out a milimeter or two of the fork crown to make space. right now, I am running some 700x38s on it

This bike was a budget build. I think once the dust settled, I had spent a total of 750 or so on parts and the frameset though I did have the wheelset lying around with a rear wheel that I rebuilt (My first wheel build!!). This bike rides well, is stable, and is probably more capable than I am on Austin's Greenbelt. Fun ride, can't wait to get more time in on it.

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Hey guys, so I finished my build!

Nice job!

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a true monstercross buildup. nice one! enjoy, These bikes will rip the rough miles.
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shameless updating of the Origin 8 monstercross thread....

video of a recent rip on an Origin 8 CX700 monstercross bike.

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I was hoping to use a Shimano 105 triple crank-set and build a 3x10 drivetrain, but the arms on road crank with external bearings won’t clear the chain-stays. So I installed a Shimano Deore “Trekking” crank-set
How did you get the FD to work? I tried this once, but the FD wouldn't swing far enough for the chain line on the MTB crank. I could make it work by rearranging the spacers, but then my left crankarm stuck way out while the right just cleared the stay.

Road FDs swing to a 45mm chainline. MTB FDs are, I believe, 47.5 or 48.
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How did you get the FD to work? I tried this once, but the FD wouldn't swing far enough for the chain line on the MTB crank. I could make it work by rearranging the spacers, but then my left crankarm stuck way out while the right just cleared the stay.

Road FDs swing to a 45mm chainline. MTB FDs are, I believe, 47.5 or 48.
It just fits, in-fact I removed the stop screw and reinserted it just a few turns.
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where do you guys buy this frame?
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https://www.google.com/#q=Origin+8+CX700&tbm=shop
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Origin8 will only sell to bike shops. You can always have any bike shop order it for you. I got mine on ebay after a few months of searching & waiting.
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Its a J&B imports brand name, so the shop needs the account with that wholesaler.

and some retail shops also have a website to sell to those who won't walk in.

it does allow you to go shopping from the company computer, while at work ..
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With clip-on Aviner fenders.


I find that's a cool-looking frame. Can you install caliper or road brakes on this type of frame if it says disc only?

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Its a J&B imports brand name, so the shop needs the account with that wholesaler.

and some retail shops also have a website to sell to those who won't walk in.

it does allow you to go shopping from the company computer, while at work ..
Amazon has it...
http://www.amazon.com/Origin8-Frame-...=origin8+cx700
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I find that's a cool-looking frame. Can you install caliper or road brakes on this type of frame if it says disc only?



Amazon has it...
http://www.amazon.com/Origin8-Frame-...=origin8+cx700
Sorry for the delay in responding. The Zilla is disc only.

I recently swapped the BB5 road discs for Shimano M615 hydraulic brakes. I also swapped the bar to a Wald #8095 mounted upside down. The Wald is compatible with MTB shifters and brake levers so I dumped the Dura Ace STI for MTB shifters. All the changes were a vast improvement, brakes, shifting, and comfort. Th M615 brakes make the cable discs feel stone age and they cost less than BB7s.
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I've just changed the tires to 29x1.9 Small Block 8's and the saddle on my Origin8 Monstercross. It's a fun bike on local trails and gravel.

Frame: Origin 8 CX700

Fork: Surly Cross Check

Handle bar: Salsa 46mm woodchipper

Stem: Forte MTB 120mm

STI Brifter: Tiagra 3x9

Saddle: Forte

Seat post: Thomson Elite

Seat post clamp: Surly

Rear canti cable hanger: Surly

Front derailleur: Tiagra for triple

Crankset: Shimano Deore FC-M590 48-36-22t

Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore SGS RD-M591

Cassette: 11-32 Shimano 9 speed

Brakes: Tektro CR720

Brakepads: Kool-stop Salmon Thinline

Wheelset: 40 spoke Velocity Dyad/Formula

Tires: 29x1.8 Kendra Small Block 8










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