Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Recreational Cyclocross and Gravelbiking This has to be the most physically intense sport ever invented. It's high speed bicycle racing on a short off road course or riding the off pavement rides on gravel like :The Dirty Kanza". We also have a dedicated Racing forum for the Cyclocross Hard Core Racers.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-23-12, 08:08 PM   #1
Myosmith
Lover of Old Chrome Moly
Thread Starter
 
Myosmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NW Minnesota
Bikes:
Posts: 2,548
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Steel cyclocross framesets other than Cross-Check

Who else makes a quality steel cyclocross bike, available as a frameset, other than Surly?
Myosmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-12, 08:51 PM   #2
SnowJob
Dirt junkie.
 
SnowJob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Minneapolis
Bikes: Surly Ice Cream Truck, Traitor Ruben, Redline Monocog 29er
Posts: 393
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Traitor Ruben
SnowJob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-12, 08:57 PM   #3
mdhook
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Bikes:
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
http://blackmountaincycles.blogspot....es-frames.html
http://g-tedproductions.blogspot.ca/...in-cycles.html
mdhook is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-12, 10:13 PM   #4
broodwich
Junior Member
 
broodwich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Sacramento, CA
Bikes: 2011 Focus Mares AX 2, 1996 Univega Rover 304
Posts: 23
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Soma Double Cross
http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/double-cross-dc
broodwich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-12, 12:14 AM   #5
xenologer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 2,052
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Don't the Soma Double Cross and Surly Cross Check have identical frame geometry?

seemed to be the case when I was comparing bikes for my cross bike purchase, but then I only looked at the one size for me, not the full ranges...
xenologer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-12, 03:55 AM   #6
Barrettscv 
Have bike, will travel
 
Barrettscv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Edwardsville, Illinois
Bikes: Colnago Nuova Mexico, Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra, Pinarello Gavia, Schwinn Paramount, Motobecane Grand Record, Peugeot PX10, Serotta Nova X, Simoncini Cyclocross Special, Origin8 monstercross, Pedal Force CG2 and CX2
Posts: 10,411
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by xenologer View Post
Don't the Soma Double Cross and Surly Cross Check have identical frame geometry?

seemed to be the case when I was comparing bikes for my cross bike purchase, but then I only looked at the one size for me, not the full ranges...
No, the Soma has a sloping top tube and a taller headtube. The Cross Check has a horizontal toptube and a shorter headtube length.
__________________
When I ride my bike I feel free and happy and strong. I'm liberated from the usual nonsense of day to day life. Solid, dependable, silent, my bike is my horse, my fighter jet, my island, my friend. Together we will conquer that hill and thereafter the world.
Barrettscv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-12, 05:32 AM   #7
flargle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 2,118
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barrettscv View Post
No, the Soma has a sloping top tube and a taller headtube. The Cross Check has a horizontal toptube and a shorter headtube length.
When you compare the seat and head angles, virtual top tube, and head tubes, they come up very similar, and I think the Surly is even a hair taller (but, like, less than one spacer's worth).
flargle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-12, 10:06 AM   #8
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 7
Posts: 18,841
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 223 Post(s)
http://www.bikeschool.com/resources/...industry-links, hand made. http://www.steelmancycles.com/
you can say what you want, then he builds it.



Mas ..http://www.bikeschool.com/resources/bike-industry-links

I own a Steel (tig) Pinarello, cross frame/fork. its 90's era.. Italian.

Last edited by fietsbob; 05-27-12 at 10:45 AM.
fietsbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-12, 10:12 AM   #9
ibis_ti
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Norcal
Bikes:
Posts: 201
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
For Norcal, add Sycip, Soulcraft, Caletti, RockLobster to that list.

Lemond used to have a steel model cx frame.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Steelman, hand made. http://www.steelmancycles.com/
you can say what you want, then he builds it.
ibis_ti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-12, 10:34 AM   #10
caloso
Packfodding 3
 
caloso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Bikes: Ridley Excalibur, Gazelle Champion Mondial, On-One Pompino, Specialized Rock Hopper
Posts: 33,621
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibis_ti View Post
For Norcal, add Sycip, Soulcraft, Caletti, RockLobster to that list.

Lemond used to have a steel model cx frame.
And Steve Rex. Won't be cheap but it will be awesome.
caloso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-12, 03:46 PM   #11
mtb123
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Bikes:
Posts: 109
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
all city nature boy/macho man
geekhouse mudville (not in the same price range as the cross check)
mtb123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-12, 03:55 PM   #12
caloso
Packfodding 3
 
caloso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Bikes: Ridley Excalibur, Gazelle Champion Mondial, On-One Pompino, Specialized Rock Hopper
Posts: 33,621
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
I just saw this on biketiresdirect.com: Handsome Devil Looks like a Cross Check copy.

Boy, the more I look at it, the more I like the All-City Nature Boy. I just wish I could get a frameset in black instead of that hideous lime yellow.
caloso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-12, 04:15 PM   #13
oldskoolwrench
自転車整備士
 
oldskoolwrench's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Denver, Colorado USA
Bikes: '86 Moots Mountaineer, '94 Salsa Ala Carte, '94 S-Works FSR, 1983 Trek 600 & 620
Posts: 898
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibis_ti View Post
For Norcal, add Sycip, Soulcraft, Caletti, RockLobster to that list.

Lemond used to have a steel model cx frame.
And Soulcraft's predecessor, Salsa Cycles in Petaluma. The Original La Cruz is one heck of a CX bike... I have a 52cm.
oldskoolwrench is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-12, 04:39 PM   #14
GrayJay
Senior Member
 
GrayJay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: EagleRiver AK
Bikes:
Posts: 1,230
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by caloso View Post
I just saw this on biketiresdirect.com: Handsome Devil Looks like a Cross Check copy.
Cantilever brake mounts alone do not make a bike a cyclocross bike. The devil's specs include long chainstays, steep headtube angle and resulting short fork trail that tell me it is best suited for use as a touring/commuter bike, not a CX racer.
GrayJay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-12, 10:28 PM   #15
WolfsBane
Senior Member
 
WolfsBane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 125
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/di...?photoid=81650 - Gunnar Crosshairs, competition cyclocross frame

http://gunnarbikes.com/site/wp-conte...92-full-01.jpg - Gunnar Hyper X, disk based competition cyclocross frame

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/...f5bcd129_b.jpg - Gunnar Fastlane, on road/off road cyclocross disk based frame, (with the beefier OS2 Air Hardening Steel).

Last edited by WolfsBane; 05-27-12 at 10:41 PM.
WolfsBane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-12, 12:36 PM   #16
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 7
Posts: 18,841
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 223 Post(s)
But Salsa is now a TW made QBP import brand, He got an offer he could not refuse..
fietsbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-12, 07:16 AM   #17
pyze-guy
Yup
 
pyze-guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: where the sunbeams end and the starlight begins
Bikes: Kona Unit, planet X cx bike, khs fixed gear
Posts: 3,054
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Planet x Kaffenback is steel.

__________________
When sadness fills my days
It's time to turn away
And then tomorrow's dreams
Become reality to me
pyze-guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-12, 10:14 AM   #18
caloso
Packfodding 3
 
caloso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Bikes: Ridley Excalibur, Gazelle Champion Mondial, On-One Pompino, Specialized Rock Hopper
Posts: 33,621
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by pyze-guy View Post
Planet x Kaffenback is steel.
Nice. I'm adding that to my list. In fact, it may have just leap-frogged the Nature Boy due to its price and versatility.
caloso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-12, 01:22 PM   #19
linus
Sprinter
 
linus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Bikes:
Posts: 1,068
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrayJay View Post
Cantilever brake mounts alone do not make a bike a cyclocross bike. The devil's specs include long chainstays, steep headtube angle and resulting short fork trail that tell me it is best suited for use as a touring/commuter bike, not a CX racer.
Since when was Cross-Check a CX racer?
linus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-12, 01:52 PM   #20
alex jb
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Leicestershire, UK.
Bikes: Orbea Ora, Klein Palomino, Planet X Kaffenback, Custom Bamboo build, 1964 Schwinn deluxe.
Posts: 215
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by caloso View Post
Nice. I'm adding that to my list. In fact, it may have just leap-frogged the Nature Boy due to its price and versatility.

I've commuted and raced gravel road on my Kaffenback, not to twitchy for commuting and quick enough for gravel racing.
alex jb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-12, 05:39 PM   #21
caloso
Packfodding 3
 
caloso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Bikes: Ridley Excalibur, Gazelle Champion Mondial, On-One Pompino, Specialized Rock Hopper
Posts: 33,621
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Well, for a $149 I couldn't resist:

caloso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-12, 09:28 PM   #22
Cynikal
Team Beer
 
Cynikal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sacramento CA
Bikes: Too Many
Posts: 5,920
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Seriously? Now I'm thinking about getting one of those.
Cynikal is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:35 PM.