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Recreational Cyclocross and Gravelbiking This has to be the most physically intense sport ever invented. It's high speed bicycle racing on a short off road course or riding the off pavement rides on gravel like :The Dirty Kanza". We also have a dedicated Racing forum for the Cyclocross Hard Core Racers.

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Old 03-12-14, 08:45 AM   #176
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This a Cotic X from the UK. With 650B wheels. Currently still in winter survival mode.

Built in the fall and rode every time this winter it got above 30, which was about 3 or 4. Can't wait to do my first event in less than 3 weeks.

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Old 03-12-14, 08:52 AM   #177
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I just joined, finally found a place where my addiction is understood. And I can blather on incessantly about all the details and nuances of my bikes. Sweet!

This was a bike used last year, and worked great. But I moved on...

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Old 03-12-14, 06:50 PM   #178
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I'm in for Almanzo and the West Dirty Ben. May get to L-M-L in a couple of weeks as well.
Had a chance to sneak in a 30 mile road ride yesterday. Felt good to be outdoors again.

See you out there.

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Nice job with your Soma. I'm eager awaiting to hear or find a ride report/review for this bike. Your (were) waiting for our horrible winter in MN to be over, right? I'll bet you are riding it now. Maybe I'll see you and your bike at Dirt Bag or Almanzo or something else??

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Old 03-12-14, 07:04 PM   #179
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I just joined, finally found a place where my addiction is understood. And I can blather on incessantly about all the details and nuances of my bikes. Sweet!

This was a bike used last year, and worked great. But I moved on...

Welcome to Bikeforums. Nice Soma, I rode a Double Cross for several years. Great bikes.
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Old 03-12-14, 10:00 PM   #180
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I'd like to hear about what you think of the Triple Cross. I'm thinking of maybe a custom frame of the stainless, but haven't heard much feedback of what people think of them.



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I'm in for Almanzo and the West Dirty Ben. May get to L-M-L in a couple of weeks as well.
Had a chance to sneak in a 30 mile road ride yesterday. Felt good to be outdoors again.

See you out there.

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Old 03-13-14, 06:36 AM   #181
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Here is my Salsa Vaya on the Great Allegheny Passage.




Here it is with WTB 700X32 "Slicks". They are great on the road, but not the greatest for gravel, singletrack, etc.
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Old 03-14-14, 08:06 AM   #182
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[QUOTE=h2oxtc;16108268]^ Love the look of the Ritchey bike.

Just finished building my cross / gravel grinder bike tonight. I say both because I'm not sure yet which it will be better suited to. We don't have a lot of gravel roads / paths around these parts ... unless poor asphalt with no shoulders qualifies.

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Old 03-14-14, 08:21 AM   #183
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Switch to 8 speed cassette and lose the Shiftmate. Sorry if that was covered already. I am new here.

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A 32t on a campy long cage would be iffy. I've heard a few accounts of people claiming to have made it work, but Campagnolo cassettes max out at 30t sizes and 3rd party versions that are bigger are few and far between not to mention expensive from what I recall. I wanted as close to a 1:1 low gear as I could manage for some of the steep rollers we have around (yes they can be found in N. Texas, and the guy who coordinates our gravel rides often goes looking for them. Not steep enough to need a 1:1 if I was on a road bike, but with the gravel you really can't stand and mash a gear so sitting and spinning a really low cog is the best bet. The shift-mate isn't perfect, but it's about as good of a solution as I was able to find when I did this build.
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Tricross gets a make-over

I originally bought this Specialized Tricross Elite Disc as a winter / utility bike. For gravel use, I've recently added a lighter set of wheels (Stan's Iron Cross team), and replaced the original FSA compact crank (50/34) with a Sugino OX801D (44/30). The weather has been rather variable the for the last couple of months, so I kept studded tires mounted on the original factory wheels and swapped wheelsets depending on the conditions of the day.



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Old 03-22-14, 03:25 PM   #185
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This is my Jamis Nova. Right now it's setup for the road but I'm going to throw on my Kenda Quickers and hit a few trails Wed and Thursday. I did my first 50 on it the other day and it rides exceptionally well.






And did a very light off road trail this morning.half paved and half hard packed dirt and grassy fields.

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Old 03-23-14, 06:53 PM   #186
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Not sure if I have posted this one here before...

It will be hauling my ass through the mud/snow/slush of Rasputista up in Northern VT in a few weeks....



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With its low bottom bracket, it makes a better gravel grinder than many cyclocross bikes.
Hi BluesDawg,
It is only in recent times that I have been actively trying to increase my knowledge about bicycles, so I feel as though I know literally nothing about bikes.

So could you please tell me why a low bottom bracket(amongst other things no doubt) makes for a good gravel grinder.

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Old 03-26-14, 08:27 AM   #188
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My latest incarnation of "old reliable"

It was my first "real bike" 11 years ago. 2003 GAry Fisher Wahoo. Midge bars; cane creek levers; microshift thumbie; sugino crank; shimano LSX "low normal' R.D. Thudbuster seat post, and custom modified Brooks B17, sliced/diced, and tied to emulate an Imperial model.

I plan on using this for an upcoming 2 day gravel grinder.
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Old 03-26-14, 08:56 PM   #189
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Hi BluesDawg,
It is only in recent times that I have been actively trying to increase my knowledge about bicycles, so I feel as though I know literally nothing about bikes.

So could you please tell me why a low bottom bracket(amongst other things no doubt) makes for a good gravel grinder.

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Most road bikes have bottom bracket drop in the 70mm vacinity, some are lower, like 75mm. This has been found over time to provide good stability while avoiding crank arm strikes to the pavement in turns. Cyclocross bikes tend to have higher BB drop, traditionally around 60mm, to provide greater ground clearance for obstacles. Gravel riding is more like road riding than it is like cyclocross racing. Larger obstacles are rare and the stability of a low center of gravity is valued with gravel and ruts trying to throw you off your line. This to me is the drawback of cyclocross bikes for general road use or for gravel riding. Compromises that are acceptable under CX racing conditions are less so in uses absent those conditions.

This not to say cyclocross bikes don't make good gravel bikes. But bikes with more roadlike BB height work better. Some recent cyclocross bikes have what has been labeled "American" CX geometry with BB drop around 65mm and slightl slacker angles. For example, the Crux frame I ride has 67mm BB drop. It works well for gravel, but if I had my druthers, I'd prefer 72.5 or 75mm drop and a half degree or so slacker head tube angle. YMMV
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Disclaimer - I am not an engineer or a frame geometry expert, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

Most road bikes have bottom bracket drop in the 70mm vacinity, some are lower, like 75mm. This has been found over time to provide good stability while avoiding crank arm strikes to the pavement in turns. Cyclocross bikes tend to have higher BB drop, traditionally around 60mm, to provide greater ground clearance for obstacles. Gravel riding is more like road riding than it is like cyclocross racing. Larger obstacles are rare and the stability of a low center of gravity is valued with gravel and ruts trying to throw you off your line. This to me is the drawback of cyclocross bikes for general road use or for gravel riding. Compromises that are acceptable under CX racing conditions are less so in uses absent those conditions.

This not to say cyclocross bikes don't make good gravel bikes. But bikes with more roadlike BB height work better. Some recent cyclocross bikes have what has been labeled "American" CX geometry with BB drop around 65mm and slightl slacker angles. For example, the Crux frame I ride has 67mm BB drop. It works well for gravel, but if I had my druthers, I'd prefer 72.5 or 75mm drop and a half degree or so slacker head tube angle. YMMV
Thank you for that.

Heh, I feel like I have so much to learn, it is always good to get this kind of insight.
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I was amazed to discover this new "gravel grinder" category. I used to take my cro-moly Trek Multitrack out on dirt/gravel roads back in 1995 so I know how fun it can be. I've still got one of those old Multitracks and I think it would be a terrific gravel grinder with it's MTB geometry. However, my main bike is shown here. I just got a set of Salsa Cowbell 3 handlebars and I just need to get some V-brake compatible brake levers and I'm going to start going for distance and I also plan to try out gravel grinding.

What handlebars are those?

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My Salsa Vaya. Will mostly be used for shorter camping and overnighter bikepacking trips.

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Ground Up Designs cross frame with White Industries/Velocity A23 wheels. I am really excited I was able to fit these 700x40 Clement XPlor MSO tires even though this snow was too much for them today.

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Heres my Dirty Kanza 200 / Almazo race bike. 2014 Kona Rove with custom florescent orange with rainbow metallic flake powder coating. Selle Anatomica saddle and bar tape, Thomson post and stem, Bags by Swift Industries. Clement X'Plor USH tires. Whiskey Parts Fork with Chris King headset.
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What handlebars are those?

Nice build!
Thanks!

Those are generic aluminum handlebars. I think they have something like 90mm of rise and 8-9 degrees of pull-back and maybe 60mm wide. I've replaced them with a Profile Design bar that is 60mm rise, 9 degree sweep and 66cm wide. I picked up an 83-84 MTB on Craigslist and I really found the 69cm wide bar to be comfortable (not useable on my bike due to odd clamp area size) so today I ordered a bar with about 40mm of rise, 9 degrees sweep and 74cm wide!! I'll see how I like them.
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