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J e e p s 12-06-13 08:09 AM

Ever heard of Alibaba Specialized Crux Pro Carbon Disc ?
 
http://tr1044682910.fm.alibaba.com/p..._Frameset.html

Saw this last night and contacted the seller.
Seems legits, and not legit at the same time...

Email they sent me :
We received your interest in our product (Specialized Crux Pro Carbon Disc 2014 Cyclocross Frameset)
Price of fameset is $750 (1 piece/pieces).
Shipping cost to Canada is $85
Total cost of frameset is $835 (including shipping & delivery)
Delivery period is 3-4 working days via DHL.
Terms of payment are Bank transfer payment(T/T),Western union & money gram.
Warranty: 18 Months international Warranty and 90 days return policy
No customs duties charges
Complete Original Brand New frame (frame, fork, headset,seatpost,seat binder etc )
Available Sizes ​ ​
49 cm 50 cm 52 cm 53 cm 54 cm 56 cm 58 cm 61 cm
For more information,please do contact us

Regards,
Management

BIKE PERSPECTIVE COMPANY LTD
Buykere caddessi #86 ,
Istanbul, Turkey.
P.O BOX 86000
Tel: (00)90 533 858 3624, (00) 90 548 832 0973
Fax: (00) 90 392 727 8933
Email: bikeperspective@groupmail.com


What do you guys think ?

Angelis 12-06-13 02:13 PM

My wife has bought stuff from Alibaba before; but from verified sellers - which this place is not.

Be prepared to throw the money away; but hope for awesomeness if it works out.

fietsbob 12-06-13 03:07 PM

Franchise dealer Of Specialized shop is in another town .. way out here .

Now Specialized is a contract filled by Giant, they make a bunch of bikes for Trek as well ,

they really are Huge.

Few factories Make a a Lot of brands, and make them as ordered by Importers..

linus 12-06-13 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 16307554)
Franchise dealer Of Specialized shop is in another town .. way out here .

Now Specialized is a contract filled by Giant, they make a bunch of bikes for Trek as well ,

they really are Huge.

Few factories Make a a Lot of brands, and make them as ordered by Importers..

Specialized is made by Merida not Giant.

fietsbob 12-06-13 03:29 PM

So You've Been there ?


I wouldn't be surprised if they farm out the work, broadly, several contract builders ,

to make a few different models , selling at various price-points ..

Andy_K 12-06-13 03:30 PM

The fact that it's 1/3 of MSRP for a 2014 frame would give me some pause. There's a guy here in Oregon who's trying to get together some information about counterfeit frames, which that almost certainly is.

At a minimum you will get no warranty or post-sales service. You might get a knock-off made with the same process and the same mold in the same factory. You might get something else. It's hard to say.

J e e p s 12-07-13 07:37 AM

I trust more an alloy knock-off than a carbon one. But there's no disc brake option so far.
http://tr1044682910.fm.alibaba.com/p..._Frameset.html

The seller is Paypal friendly so at least it offers a buyer protection.

10 Wheels 12-07-13 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J e e p s (Post 16306195)
http://tr1044682910.fm.alibaba.com/p..._Frameset.html

Saw this last night and contacted the seller.
Seems legits, and not legit at the same time...

Email they sent me :
We received your interest in our product (Specialized Crux Pro Carbon Disc 2014 Cyclocross Frameset)
Price of fameset is $750 (1 piece/pieces).
Shipping cost to Canada is $85
Total cost of frameset is $835 (including shipping & delivery)
Delivery period is 3-4 working days via DHL.
Terms of payment are Bank transfer payment(T/T),Western union & money gram.
Warranty: 18 Months international Warranty and 90 days return policy
No customs duties charges
Complete Original Brand New frame (frame, fork, headset,seatpost,seat binder etc )
Available Sizes ​ ​
49 cm 50 cm 52 cm 53 cm 54 cm 56 cm 58 cm 61 cm
For more information,please do contact us

Regards,
Management

BIKE PERSPECTIVE COMPANY LTD
Buykere caddessi #86 ,
Istanbul, Turkey.
P.O BOX 86000
Tel: (00)90 533 858 3624, (00) 90 548 832 0973
Fax: (00) 90 392 727 8933
Email: bikeperspective@groupmail.com


What do you guys think ?

SCAM: Specialized DOES NOT SELL Anything On Line.

10 Wheels 12-07-13 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J e e p s (Post 16306195)
http://tr1044682910.fm.alibaba.com/p..._Frameset.html

Saw this last night and contacted the seller.
Seems legits, and not legit at the same time...

Email they sent me :
We received your interest in our product (Specialized Crux Pro Carbon Disc 2014 Cyclocross Frameset)
Price of fameset is $750 (1 piece/pieces).
Shipping cost to Canada is $85
Total cost of frameset is $835 (including shipping & delivery)
Delivery period is 3-4 working days via DHL.
Terms of payment are Bank transfer payment(T/T),Western union & money gram.
Warranty: 18 Months international Warranty and 90 days return policy
No customs duties charges
Complete Original Brand New frame (frame, fork, headset,seatpost,seat binder etc )
Available Sizes ​ ​
49 cm 50 cm 52 cm 53 cm 54 cm 56 cm 58 cm 61 cm
For more information,please do contact us

Regards,
Management

BIKE PERSPECTIVE COMPANY LTD
Buykere caddessi #86 ,
Istanbul, Turkey.
P.O BOX 86000
Tel: (00)90 533 858 3624, (00) 90 548 832 0973
Fax: (00) 90 392 727 8933
Email: bikeperspective@groupmail.com


What do you guys think ?

SCAM: Specialized DOES NOT SELL Anything On Line.

J e e p s 12-07-13 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 Wheels (Post 16309150)
SCAM: Specialized DOES NOT SELL Anything On Line.

Yes they do

http://www.evanscycles.com

They just don't ship to every country

fietsbob 12-07-13 03:24 PM

Quote:

Specialized DOES NOT SELL Anything On Line.
yes they just ship to retailers, you, as a consumer, are buying from one of their retailers.


they dont sell them there either here a copy of the brands of CX bikes soldSome companies take advantage of the computer chair warmers ,
and have an online Retail sales division, they take wholesale margin + the SRP.

J e e p s 12-07-13 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 16310074)
they dont sell them there either here a copy of the brands of CX bikes sold

If you change the delivery country to UK all the specialized bikes appears.

no1mad 12-08-13 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 Wheels (Post 16309150)
SCAM: Specialized DOES NOT SELL Anything On Line.

Truth.
Quote:

Originally Posted by J e e p s (Post 16309623)
Yes they do

http://www.evanscycles.com

They just don't ship to every country

The only item I saw when I used the 'Shop by brand' tool to look up Specialized products was a rear rack.

Figuring you're going to need something more substantial than "it's a scam", I went to the Specialized site and changed the country to Turkey (it's actually Turkiye) and used their Dealer search for every authorized joint that can handle any Specialized products within a 100 mile radius of Istanbul. Guess what? That firm in the email ain't listed. Proof: http://www.specialized.com/tr/en/dea...bul&radius=100

J e e p s 12-08-13 08:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by no1mad (Post 16311208)
Truth.
The only item I saw when I used the 'Shop by brand' tool to look up Specialized products was a rear rack.

Here's the Evanscycle Specialized proof :
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=354327

Thanks for the Turkey dealer thing. I'll see if someone is brave enough and wait for a feedback.

linus 12-08-13 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 16307619)
So You've Been there ?

Yep. I went on biz trips there a couple of times.

fietsbob 12-08-13 02:19 PM

Turkish shop added the Alibaba, their trade name, Ali baba,& the 40 thieves, being a story of local origin

http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/alibaba.html

The"Specialized Crux Pro Carbon Disc 2014 Cyclocross Frameset", can be bought thru your local Specialized dealer

they will nail you for import Duty & GST any how . so you might as well pay retail for the Taiwan sourced frame from N American Brand Company. SBI is in The SF Cal Bay area.

It's the long way around, Vancouver BC is Much closer to Taipei..

coolgirl 01-26-14 09:37 PM

hi

I ordered from this guy


BIKE PERSPECTIVE COMPANY LTD
Buykere caddessi #86 ,
Istanbul, Turkey.
P.O BOX 86000
Tel: (00)90 533 858 3624, (00) 90 548 832 0973
Fax: (00) 90 392 727 8933
Email: bikeperspective@groupmail.com



Fisrt Name: Osayoname
middle name: Michael
Surname: Ogbebor


From Alibaba you need to pay by western union and he didnt give me any response after he got the money

he said
We have confirmed your payment.Tracking number will be forwarded to you tomorrow morning upon confirmation of expected date of delivery from DHL.
For more information,please do contact us.

But nothing from now


I think you guys should be aware of this guy

BIKE PERSPECTIVE COMPANY LTD
Buykere caddessi #86 ,
Istanbul, Turkey.
P.O BOX 86000
Tel: (00)90 533 858 3624, (00) 90 548 832 0973
Fax: (00) 90 392 727 8933
Email: bikeperspective@groupmail.com

no1mad 01-26-14 09:55 PM

Hate to say it, but you probably won't see your money again. The major brands prohibit online sales/mail order and if they want Western Union as payment, you know it is a scam. Paypal or credit cards you can file a dispute to get your money back, but not Western Union.

BluesDawg 01-27-14 04:02 PM

There's a sucker born every minute.

fietsbob 01-27-14 05:02 PM

As I said the name should have been a red Flag ..
Quote:

Alibaba,& the 40 thieves


make that 41


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