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Old 06-03-14, 12:10 PM   #1
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Frame Swap?

My Fantom Outlaw is pretty heavy. I'm thinking of swapping out the frame for something carbon. Maybe something like this: Colnago Prestige Carbon Cyclocross Frame 52cm | eBay

My parts are tiagara/105. Am I crazy for thinking about swapping out the frame? I figure I can get some $ off of the Fantom frame.
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Typically when your bike is heavy it's because your parts are heavy. A really heavy frame typically weighs no more than 4.5 pounds. All but the very lightest frames weigh over 2.5 pounds. A steel fork might weigh as much as 2 pounds, and a full carbon fork will generally be just under 1 pound. So going from really heavy to really light in the frameset might save you 3 pounds. That's nothing to sneeze at, but you have to decide for yourself if it's worthwhile. Also, I think you've already got a carbon fork, and I'd be surprised if that frame weighs over 4 pounds. You probably would be saving less than 2 pounds.

That Colnago frameset won't work with disc brakes, so that's probably a consideration for you. Most carbon framesets these days will have some kind of oversized bottom bracket and head tube, so those are additional parts you'd need.

Making a bike lighter is always a very expensive project, and it's not done until you've replaced everything.
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Why? Seems like you're kinda new to cyclocross. Do you race? If it was me I wouldn't bother, but it's your money. And yeah those are perfectly functional but not high end lightweight components. Spend time getting faster, stronger and lighter. I don't know about you, but I could lose about 8 lbs off my own frame before I start worrying about the weight of my bicycle frame.
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Have you weighed the frame? The frame on my Fantom Cross Pro (54cm) weighed exactly 1500g and the carbon fork was another 660g. It would actually be a challenge to find a good carbon CX frame that was more than a few hundred grams lighter. I know the Outlaw uses a different frame than the Pro, but I wouldn't make any assumptions about weight without stripping it down and putting it on a scale.
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I don't race. I just don't like the feel of Fantom Outlaw frame. Especially after a day riding my CAAD10. The Fantom doesn't feel as stiff and responsive. But after looking into it more it seems very costly. :/
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