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    Crockett 5 Disc or Crossrip Ltd?

    I am looking for a second bike, one for winter riding (which my Domane, where I live and for my wants, is not suitable) and something I can maybe do some very limited off-road riding.

    I get the differences between the two models - but my LBS has neither in stock and would require a special order. I'd like to be a little more heads up while riding than my Domane offers and I certainly like the idea of the additional brake levers on the Crossrip. But I'm not familiar at all with hydraulic systems and I wonder, for my use, if there are any practical advantages of the 200 series frame of the Crockett over the 100 series of the Crossrip.

    Any suggestions or actual experience with either would be helpful and appreciated.
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    For the purposes you describe, I can't see any reason to prefer the Crockett.

    Trek calls the brakes on the CrossRip hydraulic, but they're actually a mechanical/hydraulic hybrid. They still attach to the levers with a cable. The biggest difference, in terms of the cable setup, is that you can't really use the barrel adjusters for anything except setting initial cable tension. The self-contained hydraulic system (when working properly) automatically adjusts for pad wear. I've had some problems with those brakes (see my review thread, which recently resurfaced), but when they're working they are outstanding -- head and shoulders above the BB5's on the Crockett.

    The one caveat here is that should you decide to go to a full hydraulic system (which will be the standard within a few years) you'll need to replace both the brakes and the levers. That's true for both bikes, of course. With the CrossRip, going full hydraulic would also force you to lose the bar top levers. I guess on balance this is still a point in favor of the CrossRip as those brakes will have you less motivated to make the jump to full hydraulics.

    I'd also look at the Kona Rove and Salsa Vaya in that price range and category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadProphet View Post
    I am looking for a second bike, one for winter riding (which my Domane, where I live and for my wants, is not suitable) and something I can maybe do some very limited off-road riding.

    I get the differences between the two models - but my LBS has neither in stock and would require a special order. I'd like to be a little more heads up while riding than my Domane offers and I certainly like the idea of the additional brake levers on the Crossrip. But I'm not familiar at all with hydraulic systems and I wonder, for my use, if there are any practical advantages of the 200 series frame of the Crockett over the 100 series of the Crossrip.

    Any suggestions or actual experience with either would be helpful and appreciated.
    - Crockett runs a tapered steerer fork = stiffer/more responsive and stable(?)

    - CrossRip has exposed rack and fender mounts; Crockett runs removable/hidden ones. If rack/fenders is in your plans, CrossRip would get the nod.

    - However, you are looking for more heads-up than the Domane, and that's where things get tricky -- Crockett has a shorter tt length than the CrossRip and Domane (more heads up), but shorter headtube than either (less heads up). Where CrossRip has longer tt and shorter ht than the Domane, it indicates less heads up given the same stem length, or going down one size from your Domane; Crockett would be more heads up than the same size CrossRip, but with shorter tt and ht, might be a wash compared to the Domane.
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    I have a CrossRip and I really like it. I got the Comp, but moved my Ultegra 6600 series over to it and replaced the brakes with the TRP Sypres (Mechanical disc).

    Fantastic bike though, ride really nice. I use mine as a commuter primarily.


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    After talking with some of the folks at the lbs, I'm going with the Crossrip ltd. Over $200 cheaper, plus those extra levers, which, in my mind, should let me keep my hands up on the bars for off-roading. Won't get to ride it first, but I am looking forward to it! Next Wednesday should be the day. Also get a $100 for extras, so they'll be putting on a rack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadProphet View Post
    plus those extra levers, which, in my mind, should let me keep my hands up on the bars for off-roading.
    That can be good for steep descent, but with the narrow hand position you lose a lot of leverage.

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    Good point, Andy. But I doubt, unless I've made a terrible mistake, that I'll be doing any steep descents or anything approaching hard core. In reality, I am looking for a winter bike - wide tires, disc brakes - plus maybe 5% of leaving the road. Really a road bike with those items. My back and neck (the most recent piece to be falling apart) would stage a revolt if I tried having fun. :-)
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    The bar top levers are great for riding in traffic.

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    I think the Crockett is aimed at actual Cross Racing , Crossrip is a better choice If you want a rack mudguards and etc,

    the top mount levers are easy to add, particularly, now that most come with a hinged band,
    you dont even have to do a total re wrap of the Bars..

    [mine, an early Empella, Did, no hinge so they had to go on a bare bar. ]

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