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Old 12-08-02, 09:28 PM   #26
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Thanks for all the input. I didn't expect to see 24 responses.

In response to DnvrFox, it was her idea to go in 23 deg weather. I wanted to wait until noontime when the temps hit the 40s. But, she wanted to hurry since we had some XMas shopping to do.

But, I did figure something out here. I need to be patient. I remember a time when I was timid to ride on the roads (I got hit by a car). It took me a while to get over that.

She hasn't been hit by a car, but the fear is still real.

As far as Mike OK's advice, my circumstances are different. Most of my rides are to and from work. She works too. We have different schedules. I don't think she'll want to ride with me to and from work. Good fishing analogy though.

So, I will accomodate to her level for now. When she is ready to venture off the side streets and sidewalks, she'll let me know.

But, there is a local bike path. She'll probably enjoy this, especially since there's a park at the end. Of course, I'll wait until the weather is MUCH nicer to load the panniers for a picnic.

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I think you guys are missing one big issue detering women from from ever becoming totaly sold on cycling.

"VANITY"

"Lets face it" Where on a bike can a woman look at her reflection in a mirror, to prean her hair, check her makeup, make sure she is looking her best, when out and about, in full view of everyone. Probably the thought of all that sweat, tousled hair, etc is more offputting than any other reason..
Yes women are lovely, but vain creatures.
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I think you guys are missing one big issue detering women from from ever becoming totaly sold on cycling.

"VANITY"

"Lets face it" Where on a bike can a woman look at her reflection in a mirror, to prean her hair, check her makeup, make sure she is looking her best, when out and about, in full view of everyone. Probably the thought of all that sweat, tousled hair, etc is more offputting than any other reason..
Yes women are lovely, but vain creatures.
I hope you were kidding with this.

Maybe it seems like another chore to some women. Once they have fed the kids and hubby, cleaned the house, gone to work, taken care of parents, and met community commitments, you want them to get on a bike and expend more energy. I think more women would ride or be interested in fitness if there were more hours in a day.

I won't even claim to speak for all women, especially since I am in the minority group that would choose a day on my bike over a day at the spa, but to say vanity is a big reason some women don't cycle seems to be a bit much.

Just my very humble opinion.
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well, i've never been married, but i can give relate what i've learned from my experiences with my relationships:

you can introduce your significant other to cycling and make it as nice and as pleasurable as possible. after that, she/he either gets the cycling bug or doesn't. and you have to accept that. trying to make a cyclist out of someone is a bad idea.

i have had i guess 4 SO long enough for cycling to be a big issue:
* 1 was a cyclist and kicked my @ss and started me racing
* 2 were not cyclists and i tried to gently to get them into it and they both rode a little, but only recreational, but that was ok --- very few tours, mostly just riding 10 mintues in the park to get ice cream
* 1 i successfully introduced to cycling. she picked it up fast and bought a new bike a few weeks after our first ride and then got into racing right after that. only conflict was that i found a ripping deal on a used Kona a friend was selling and i bought (cause i wanted the fork AND i thought it would make a cool bike for her and if not i'd keep it as my second) and i swapped the fork out on it and sold it to her with my old fork for a wicked deal ($200 for an XTR hard-tail Kona with Manitou TPC fork) and she accused me of not respecting her cycling ability by taking the better fork... sadly, we "had" to break up b/c i moved to Europe and the distance didn't work, and she is very active in the MTB race scene now.

i think as long as each respects the hobbies and interests of the other it's cool... but man is it nice to cycle with a Significan Other - i've had that twice and they both raced and were near enough to my level
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I know what you mean, Cyclezeaqlot. My wife’s saddle looks more like a sofa. I didn't know that they made saddles that wide. I can see it restricting her leg movements, but she will not change. One of the things I have always loved about her is her willfulness. So I guess I have to live with the dark side (the bull headiness)

I'm not going to try to change her. I'm hopping that she will learn on her own.

One thing I know that (in my case) I would NOT do is go for a long bike tour with another woman - even if it's her best friend. That would be asking for green headed trouble
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After all this talk about wives, I must say the mine is VERY supportive of My cycling She see the benefits it has given my health and well being and she is very understanding of the time it takes.

I would like to get her involved but I doubt that she has the interest. Just like I can't get interested in her Equestrian hobby.
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Sad as it is to admit, there might be some truth to the vanity thing, although I don't think it's the same reason for all women. I think it's probably true for older women, though, who still have this thing about being ladylike and not getting sweaty or dirty. They were not socialized to see sports as something nice ladies do. I see women like that at the gym- they get on the treadmill and walk for the requisite 20 minutes, barely mess up their hair and then leave! These are not women who will mess up their hair with a sweaty helmet and bandanna. It's unfortunate that so many women are such couch potatoes, though. It can't be good for them. I was never a big athlete but I was never a couch potato, and it took me a while to really get into the rush of real exertion since I didn't do much sports when younger. However, i take exception to the image of women as vain bubbleheads who need to see their reflections in a mirror all the time.You might ask yourself what kind of women you're hanging out with.

Of course, i wonder about young women too. I see women in their 20s with paunches, pasty skin and shlubby butts, and I wonder what kind of shape they'll be in at, well, my age!
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shlubby???
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Well, guys, it depends on your priorities, but there's always that mtn biker that got the sex change...

Hey! Put that down! I was just kidding!
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what the heck is a shlubby?
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shullby is that cottage cheese butt action going on
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Hey, you guys need to make some jewish friends...


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shlubby

I think that's got nothing to do with jewish girls!!



Anybody remember what the original question was??
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Shame on me... Her friend Paula.. Hope I don't use our group rides to encourage, my wife..........Last year for Christmas, we helped out Paula, to set her up on her starter bike. She very much likes biking on a nice day.. So when Paula used to go out to lunch with gina, while I was out biking, now she spends time with my cyclist friends, at our lunch on the beach..
Heah, I was my wife's idea to help get her into the sport.. For last Christmas..
Now that friend is interested in the idea of crossing the south of France with us..... If my wife persists in not getting into cycling- guess my wife's role would be sag support- as we cross on the Mer to Mar.. So hopefully that will not be too awkard.. Can't help it her very good friend really enjoys the sport.. Now we both try to encourage my wife to join us.. The friend is usually with a couple of my cycling friends and the two of us are not usually alone...
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Hey, you guys need to make some jewish friends...
Ahhhh... Shlubby is what happens to your tokhes if you aren't shvitsn enough!
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I must be really lucky, my wife took to
cycling like a duck to water. All I did was start
talking about riding, doing the ride for the Roses
(She is a huge lance fan), and mention the
benefits of cycling on diving (she's an asst.
instructor too). Now when I don't feel like
riding the rollers in the wee hours, she is
convincing me that I need to get on em.
The best thing I can say is don't push,
let your spouse (either wife or husband) find
the benefits for themselves.
that an a little chutzpah helps.

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Ahhhh... Shlubby is what happens to your tokhes if you aren't shvitsn enough!
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Ya don't know your shmuck from your shmeckle!

(to quote lenny bruce)

Okay, enough with all the yid stuff...Lotek is right, you can't push anyone to get into anything. Unfortunately, we live in a couch-potato society where it's often an effort to get anyone to do anything.
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Well, I just purchased a Giant Sedona DX for my wife. We just returned from our first ride together.

Anyone have advice on breaking a new cyclist in? She's not a bad rider. She can ride a straight line. In addition, I always pick more rural roads to ride on.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Danr... Make sure she has the very latest warm weather clothing for her bones, no matter the cost. Otherwise, she'll become uncomfortable at some point, and possibly say si a nar a to riding with you. Offer to help her if it appears she's struggling. But, be careful and more importantly, be patient with her learning process. She'll no doubt have her moments...just give her room
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I ride with my wife but she lags behind and I slow down or wait for her. My plan is to buy a recumbent (trike) tandem and I can peddle all I want as fast as I want to and she'll be right their behind me.
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I would not mind her lagging behind me.. When riding with slower riders, I usually get enough ahead to see them turn around and get behind them and again catch them.. Gives me a longer ride.. Would not mind, knowing she's out there in the fresh air and sunshine..
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OK. I decided that when she wants to go riding, I jog while she rides.
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I can only get my better half out on a ride if I entice him with destinations like Smoothies at the Lift Bridge Cafe on the Erie Canal Path or one time I talked him into biking to a festival and back. He has a good time when he is finally out but it's like putting a fire under him to go. If I buy him a new gadget to try....cyclocomputer, saddlle bag, power drink he'll want to try it out. Some times it is more trouble then it is worth and I just go out alone and manage to have a good time alone. My 8 year old likes to go and is a real trooper. She is good for 10 miles easily so that helps too. She and I have had some great mother/daughter rides together.
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My 8 year old likes to go and is a real trooper. She is good for 10 miles easily so that helps too. She and I have had some great mother/daughter rides together.
And it will not be any time at all until she is good for 20 and then 30 and you both will have a blast, leaving hubby in the cold. And he will be missing some great times. Tell him I said so.
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Dnrv.. It is such a shame. Ever have those weekend mornings- with those non-cyclists. Don't know what to do- what will we do today..
Cyclists and those with hobbies/interests have no problems.. What is the shame, we leave our spouses' behind and go out and have a good time and they are stuck back watching the Idiot box.. When we could be cycling to lunch together on the beach watching nature or whatever..
I get to the beach at least twice a week, w/o the bike it would probably be once or twice a month.. There are some great coffee shops for Sunday AM rides, watching the porpoises/whales out there in the surf.
IF not for cycling, when the spouse asks what do we do today- I ususally have no answer. The mall gets old and a walk/picnic in the park is too low key for me..
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