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Old 12-07-07, 01:33 PM   #1
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Diamondback Outlook vs used Trek 820

Shopping for my 13/14 yo son a new bike.

Have a shot at buying two matching (male & female) Trek 820s that are 3-4 yrs old. Supposedly sat in a garage and haven't been ridden, tires are flat they said. Can get both for less than the $220+tax that I'd pay locally for a new Diamondback Outlook.

I'd have to drive about 3.5 hrs to look at and buy the 820s.

What would you do? I want to get the most bike for the money here, obviously. How good are these bikes?

Thanks for your help.

Michael

P.S. Also have a 10 yo boy and 6 yo girl that can use the smaller framed 820 if we got it.
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Old 12-07-07, 01:49 PM   #2
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They are okay bikes. I'd prefer them over alot of the dept. store offerings. 3.5 hours is a long way though. That could add $40 or more in gas to the deal, plus your time. If you have not looked already, Craigslist is great. Of course some areas have less offerings than others.

If you don't need the bikes for Xmas or some other upcoming event, you won't risk much by taking your time and seeing what is out there and getting a sense of the market place.
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Old 12-07-07, 01:57 PM   #3
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Sorry, forgot to mention it is gonna be from Santa.

I know I hate to spend the gas$$ and polute, but two 820s for $150 seems hard to pass up based purely on what little knowledge I have about bikes these days.

Forgot to mention that the closest Craig's list of any significant size is several hours away and we don't have one closer than 1.5 hrs.
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I think that based on the information you've given us, that this would probably be a pretty good deal. Even allowing for the gas getting there, and possibly replacing tubes (it's the tubes that would be flat, not the tyres), that's still only a hundred dollars apiece for a decent quality bike versus a Wal-Mart type bike.

The 820 should be able to hold up to a LOT of abuse, as well (which definitely would not be true for a Wal-Mart bike).

I'd say you might really want to think about it, especially as your options seem to be limited, and time is running short for your holiday buying . Also, if it turns out that you/your son/daughter don't enjoy cycling, you haven't put too much money into it, and could possibly recoup some of it down the line.

Don't forget helmets (perhaps the sellers have some they don't need and that were never worn that they could throw in?).

Let us know how it turns out!

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The two bikes you mention are of the same basic quality. The Trek retails for around 290 now, so it might be a bit better.

If the bikes are in good condition, two bikes for $150 seems a good deal. I have ridden Trek products since the mid 1980's and have never been disappointed with one of their bikes. If the bikes have been well maintained and stored indoors, I would go this route. If they need new tires, cables, chains, etc, or need to have the bearings repacked due to poor mainteance, these costs could add up fast.

One of the downsides of buying a used Trek bicycle is that the warranty is not transferable. If for some reason the frame fails on the used Trek, you will have no recourse.

The Diamondback should carry a lifetime warranty on the frame for the original purchaser, and should have some basic initial maintenance included in the purchase price (first tune up free in 90 days or the like)
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"If the bikes have been well maintained and stored indoors, I would go this route. If they need new tires, cables, chains, etc, or need to have the bearings repacked due to poor mainteance, these costs could add up fast."

Yeah, I'm a little worried about the chance that they may need additional $$ put into them. She said the tires needed inflating (dry rot worries) and the ad says they may need minor adjustments (??$$). But she did say that "they had never been ridden. They've basically just sat in the garage for 3 or 4 yrs."

Is the Diamondback Outlook really a Wal-Mart quality-level bike? That seems steep @ $220 from a private Cycle Shop for that quality.

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Diamondbacks are NOT a Wal-Mart bike. You may find them in a Dick's or Sports Addiction, but not in a store without a dedicated bike repair and service staff. They my be just a step above what is in Wal-Mart, but they are backed by a better warranty and have been assembled by skilled (hopefully) mechanics.

Tough choice. If the 820s were closer, I'd take a look at them. I'm in SC, a 3.5 hour drive would put me on the other side of the state!
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Thanks again, Dan.

I forgot to ask. One of the 820s is a 16.5" and the other a 14.5" frame - I'm assuming that these are common Men's and Women's sizes. Is that correct (well assuming one's not on the extreme left or right tail of the normal distribution of hgt)?
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Currently the 820 is available in 13,16, 18, 19.5 and 21

Translated, that means you have a smaller and a medium sized Trek 820. You can go to

http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...dtail/820/820/

to see specs on a new 820.

If it was me, I would drive to see them and adjust the price down if it looks like they need tires, etc. If you have a bike mechanic friend, take him along and buy him lunch.

Best of luck and Merry Christmas!
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