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    Question: How would 26x1.50 tires do on my Townie21? I would like to increse my average speed to 15 plus mph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Reinarz Jr
    Question: How would 26x1.50 tires do on my Townie21? I would like to increse my average speed to 15 plus mph.

    Roy Reinarz Jr
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    A light weight "slick" tire will increase speed slightly on a 26 inch wheel, especially if it is a tire rated for higher PSI levels, such as 60 PSI or 70 PSI. However, a narrow tire at high PSI levels is a bit less stable on dirt or gravel surfaces, and does not absorb road shock as well as a tire designed to ride at 40 PSI or 50 PSI.

    To ride at an average speed of 15 PSI, YOU and your legs will be more important than the tires. Hopefully, the wind will always be at your back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Reinarz Jr
    Question: How would 26x1.50 tires do on my Townie21? I would like to increse my average speed to 15 plus mph.
    I replaced the stock 26 x 1.9 tires on my wife's Townie 21 with 26 x 1.5 IRC Metro slicks. The higher pressure, narrower tire makes a big difference. Try it, you'll like it.
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    I rented a Townie to give it a good try. It was a fun in-town ride. The tires were 2.125 (two and one-eight inches), which probably helped support my ample frame and make for a smooth ride but there was more labour involved in taking small hills than I'm accustomed to. This was a three-speed and the low gear was low enough to get a good start from a dead stop but not low enough for climbing. This combined with the fat tires made it necessary for me to walk more substantial hills. When the seat was properly adjusted, it was not a flat-foot bike for me (I'm almost 6'3") but that didn't bother me. I really like the gears in the hub and the shifter was very easy to use. I could eventually get accustomed to a coaster brake but I noticed a habit I was not aware of until I couldn't do it: when I stop I give the pedal a little push backward so it's near the top of its stroke for a fast start. Since I couldn't back pedal, I had to move the bike backwards to get the pedals oriented properly.

    I wouldn't get one for myself but I'd advise anyone who is interested to try it and to consider the seven (or eight?) speed version unless it's to be used in rather flat terrain. If I were to use the Townie regularly, I would add a front brake and narrower tires . I don't know how much abuse a coaster brake can take but I must have generated a lot of heat on some serious hills. Since there was no other traffic, I reduced my rate of descent by making wide S turns on the way down to try and conserve the brakes.

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    The increased cost is probably due to the internal hub.

    I have both a Townie 3 with an internal hub and the Townie21. You probably could do just fine in your country with the Townie3. It seems to like flat or rolling terrains. I need the Townie21 for riding the steep inclines of the Balconess escarpment where live in TEXAS. Both are very practical bikes for riding in an urban environemnt. I find them very safe to operate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazco
    Bought one about a year ago and rode it about 8 times. I stopped riding and It's just been sitting there since. It really is super comfortable and i loved it at first. But within a few rides i began to get tierd of the way it feels going up grades. It become tiresome on even the slightest grade, both in the way the sitting position feels when under uphill load and the fact that it's much harder than a regular bike on grades. great bike for level ground, but it's not totally level around my neighborhood. Gonna trade it for a Mt bike if i can.
    I live on the Balcones escarpment just across the Colorado River/Lake Travis from the beautiful Hill Country where Lance Armstrong trains. I have no way to measure the grades I ride, but some are slightly past the vertical...as in very steep. My Townie3 rides comfortably on the rolling terrain, but not the steep grades. I got a Townie21 for these grades. I just keep shifting down until I get in the granny gear for the walls. I lean back and push the pedals. I go up comfortably at over four mph with a cadence of 80 to 90 rpm. If it gets steeper than that I will have to haul it up with a rope. I go down the other side at over 40 mph.

    I have ridden the Townie3 some 500 miles. I have ridden the Townie21 for 2347 miles since 2/20/05.

    I learned how to use the Towwnie21's geometry and gearing to advantage. I rode 25 miles yesterday in town and 20 miles today. Roy In Lago Vista, TEXAS

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    I'm about to buy a Townie but I'm unsure which one. I love the Townie 3s in Womens, but its only 3 gears, and I worry about if that will be enough for the PCH. (I live in santa monica california). The Townie 8 is awesome, but its freakin $700! The Townie 7 is great, but is hideous. Its too bad they didn't make that bike in something that looks nicer. I will be using the bike for cruising around the beach and the promenade area, but we do have hills and mountains here in CA. All the 'serious bike people' here at the local bike shops things the Townie is great, but overpriced.

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    I wish I had sprung for the Townie8 when I got my '3, but at the time I wasn't planning on using it the way I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laine
    I'm about to buy a Townie but I'm unsure which one. I love the Townie 3s in Womens, but its only 3 gears, and I worry about if that will be enough for the PCH. (I live in santa monica california). The Townie 8 is awesome, but its freakin $700! The Townie 7 is great, but is hideous. Its too bad they didn't make that bike in something that looks nicer. I will be using the bike for cruising around the beach and the promenade area, but we do have hills and mountains here in CA. All the 'serious bike people' here at the local bike shops things the Townie is great, but overpriced.
    I have a Trek with the 4 speed Shimano hub, and it is geared well for the rare, and moderate sized hills I see in Houston. Your bike shop can put a larger rear sprocket on the three speed to make it more suitable for climbing hills.

    The key to climbing hills is not "how many" speeds, but WHICH speeds. For steep hills, you need a gear that is about 30 inches or 35 inches...a three speed can be geared that low, with the right combination of rear sprocket and front chainring. Of course, if a three speed has a 35 inch bottom gear, the "fast" gear will end up at only about 60 inches or so. A 60 inch gear is plenty fast enough for the sort of riding that I do on a cruiser, but some young folks think they are the "new Lance", and want a 70 or 80 inch gear to race around with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterRun
    I wish I had sprung for the Townie8 when I got my '3, but at the time I wasn't planning on using it the way I am.
    I just ordered a Townie 8 this weekend, dealer said 7-10 days to get one (I am in Florida). I am very interested the Nexus internal hub. I have ridden cruisers in the past and my most recent bike was a Walmart NEXT 7 speed comfort bike. I live in a totally flat area but have tried a 3 speed Sturmey Archer hubbed bike and I thought the gear ratios were too wide between gears.

    I know $700 is alot for this model but the hub is probably near $200 of the cost by itself.

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    I run a 36:18 on my three speed and it's fine for cruising around. Hi gear for normal use, middle for windy days, and low for snow or big hills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterRun
    I wish I had sprung for the Townie8 when I got my '3, but at the time I wasn't planning on using it the way I am.

    This happens all the time to people that get a nice bike; they ride more and more and run into the limitations of the bike they thought would be the end all. It's better to buy a bike that's above your needs than right at them unless you've been riding many years at your max. riding miles. My wife's hybrid lasted her a year before getting passed down for a better, faster bike. My road bike is miles ahead of my capabilities but I'm gaining on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Reinarz Jr
    Question: How would 26x1.50 tires do on my Townie21? I would like to increse my average speed to 15 plus mph.

    Roy Reinarz Jr
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    Hi do the 26x1.50 tires go on the original rims or do you have to purchase new rims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbattle
    This happens all the time to people that get a nice bike; they ride more and more and run into the limitations of the bike they thought would be the end all. It's better to buy a bike that's above your needs than right at them unless you've been riding many years at your max. riding miles. My wife's hybrid lasted her a year before getting passed down for a better, faster bike. My road bike is miles ahead of my capabilities but I'm gaining on it.
    My case is a little different. I've been bike commuting for a pretty fair while. To make a short story long:

    My plans were to retire from the Marine Corps, to a coastal vacation cottage that my Grand Father bought in 1950 and was about 15 miles from the nearest small town, buy a new road bike for commuting and a Townie3 for around the island, and buy a large jonboat to fish out of. My wife and I had already agreed to being a single car family after retirement.

    What actually happened was I retired, but Hurricane Dennis hit 200 miles to the west and caused more high water here than anybody can ever remember, which knocked the cottage down a week before we were to move in. Now I'm renting a small place ten miles inland from where the cottage was. Instead of a the jonboat and motor I found a fair deal on a used canoe and now have three. So then I needed a Wike Woody Wagon canoe trailer to tow a canoe behind a bike. It wouldn't have been totally impossible to tow the jonboat I planned on like this, but completely impractical. The road bike and my old roadish hybrid turned out to be useless for such a long and heavy trailer, particullarly on the sand roads so prevelent in this county, but the Townie works great. Which means I'm putting more miles on the Townie and towing much more of a load than I ever planned on. This would just be easier with a Townie8, rather than a '3.

    On the upside: that house was going to go sooner or later and I'm glad it happened before we moved in; I'm only three miles from the nearest fishing on the Wakulla River and I have several other excellent places to put in within 10 miles of the house; this area is much more convient to town than where the cottage was; and I'm fishing more different places than I would have been, had I wound up living on the island.

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    Bummer, called dealer on my order and they said Electra has no Townie 8 bikes in stock and will be mid to late March.

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    That's not so far away. See if your dealer will reserve one for you on the condition you get to test fly it before you buy.

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    I love the Cruisers. I would like to thank Electra for their awesome Straight 8. I came to this forum via a google search for ride height questions. Some of these posts gave me a royal rash though.

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    i really like the trek line of cruisers. they have options that are 7 speed and have the front V brakes. Coaster brakes are hard to get used too. The only thing I don't like about the Trek cruisers are that they tend to come in only a few colors. Not all women want to ride a pink bike. I wish they had a neutral color option like black or silver for all their cruisers.

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    Did anyone ever find out if the 26 X 1.5 tires fit on the standard rims? I love my new townie, but the tires seem to provide a lot of resistance. I was thinking that a 100psi city tire might do me better.

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    Cannondale's Daytripper looks like a similar type of bike.

    Went with my in-laws to look at bikes. My father-in-law really liked the Townie. He's got bad arthritis in his hands and didn't want a bike that would put a lot of weight on them. He probably liked the style, too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamlunchtray
    Did anyone ever find out if the 26 X 1.5 tires fit on the standard rims? I love my new townie, but the tires seem to provide a lot of resistance. I was thinking that a 100psi city tire might do me better.
    I have a Townie 24 with stock rims mounted with 26x1.25's. They work very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldPax
    I have a Townie 24 with stock rims mounted with 26x1.25's. They work very well.
    Did you notice much of a change in the way the bike rode?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamlunchtray
    Did you notice much of a change in the way the bike rode?
    Big difference, although I only took a short test ride on the fat tires. The LBS guy was also immpressed. Definitely worth the change if you plan on riding more than a couple miles at a time. I average 15+ mph on my 12 mile commute no problem with the skinnies. Geax Street Runner 1.25's
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldPax
    Big difference, although I only took a short test ride on the fat tires. The LBS guy was also immpressed. Definitely worth the change if you plan on riding more than a couple miles at a time. I average 15+ mph on my 12 mile commute no problem with the skinnies. Geax Street Runner 1.25's
    That sounds great. I am mostly just riding for exercise on a paved bike path and the fat tires just feel like they are slowing me down. Im currently doing 10 mile rides, but I want to up that to 20 and hopefully longer as time goes on. My wife is a speed demon so I need all the help I can get catching up to her. When we ride together she tows the kids on her trek hybrid so that she doesnt have such an advantage. If she were riding her Fuji road bike I would be left in the dust

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    Quote Originally Posted by cycletourist
    Mcbengie,

    You won't learn anything useful reading on this forum. Few people here actually think for themselves- they just regurgitate what they read in Bicycling magazine. And they will all be happy to make up opinions about your bike without actually seeing or riding one. The only way you can find out how to improve your bike is to listen to the customers who actually BUY them and RIDE them.
    I learned a tremendous amount of valuable information from this forum during my one-year prep time for my 2 1/2 month bike tour from VA to CO. My only "bad" experience is that many people recommended Continental 2000 Touring tires, which to me were a waste of money. Maybe the people recommending them fell prey to fancy marketing; apparently, I did. Other than that, all the info I obtained here contributed to the wonderful "success" of my tour. I still come to Bikeforums.net at least every few days to learn something new or contribute my own knowledge.

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