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    You mean there is another Electra Townie advertising thread on cycling.com as well! Clever strategy, Electra.

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    I love my Townie... I know that some people will think that I must work for Electra... but I don't. My wife and I just got bikes and now ride them all of the time. she is 5 feet tall and I am 6ft.. I have a mountain bike too, but for fun, comfortable street riding.. and not really caring about getting there in a hurry.. this is a great bike..

    those that are somehow against this bike.. well, it is because they have some sort of insecurities or fear that something different must be wrong.

    I guess there are mountain bikers that make fun of road bikers and well.. just chill out. It's a fun bike and just deal with the fact that there are people like me, that just love them.

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    I feel the same as you, Phooey. I bought my Townie 3 in August and now am riding 10 to 12 miles a day. BTW had to stop a few days, really cold here in Miami, 52 F with overcast. Might not sound coid to some, but if your used to 80 F, it is too cold for these older bones.
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    A couple of bumps that got under my guard.

    One day, you townie fans will find better bikes to ride. Will you then create a special thread for that bike?

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    Yeah, and you know... I can't find a thread on these forums dedicated to the Trek Townie lookalike that keeps getting bumped to the top. You seem to be making the very suspect claim that because of the number of posts here that the Townie MUST be a good bike... If you repeat the mantra over and over, I suppose, you end up believing it.

    Like I've said before, I hope Electra is paying Joe G a big wad of money for a thread which is nothing more than advertising hype.

    Not even on the Folding Bikes forum is there a single thread dedicated to single brand of bike that keeps on getting bumped.

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    Rowan, instead of carrying on your "one man" campaign against a bike you do not own, and probably have never ridden, why not get a bike YOU like, and let Electra riders enjoy their bikes?

    In the meantime, thousands of people in the USA are riding and enjoying Townies. The Trek "clones" of the Townie are likely to be "best selling" recreational bikes as well. Thousands of happy folks riding their bikes. And, one guy, grumping through life in the "upsidedown" part of the world with his smile turned upsidedown.

    Some people need to ride more, and whine less.
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    Obviously straight over the top of your head... houston. Are you balding, by any chance?

    Reread my posts very carefully and you may get an inkling of why this thread impresses me as being so commercially obnoxious. In fact, why don't we suggest to Joe that it be moved to where it really belongs -- in the SHAMELESS PROMOTIONS forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan
    Not even on the Folding Bikes forum is there a single thread dedicated to single brand of bike that keeps on getting bumped.
    Looks like you're the one doing most of the bumping these days...so I guess that means you work for Electra...

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    OK, after reading thru this entire thread, this Rowan character (Crikey)! got me to chime in.
    I have 5 bikes. I started as a kid (of course) on schwinn cruisers delivering newspapers. 150 newspapers on very steep hills for 4 years. Now I'm 38 years old. I've run the bike gamut from cruiser to mountain bike to recumbent. For me it's been the inevitable fact and journey of most bike riders: Once you start getting older, you are no longer the bullet-proof kid of years past. Some bikes aren't as comfortable to ride anymore, so you look for ones that are.
    I ride a full suspension mtb on trails (I go to Moab and Durango 2 weeks annually), I ride a recumbent around San Diego's wonderful and long bikepaths. I ride an old mtb that I've spent hundreds of $ on to make it more comfortable: suspension fork, chopper handlebars, various seats... And it's still uncomfortable. "And notice that I'm not including names/manufacturers of my bikes to "sell" brands or preferences. Gotta keep the "Rowans" of the world happy, dontcha know?
    So what's my point? This forum is providing a service to people who are looking for the right bike for their specific biking needs. No more no less. I ususally don't post to forums. For some reason most of them start off with good topics only to degenrate into adolescent name calling and bull-headed nonsense.
    One guy made a point that all the bike snobbery wanted to make him give up the sport entirely. Don't blame him. I've seen the same attitudes pervade and degrade surfing. The idea that a "Real" cyclist or "Real" surfer is one who rides a certain bike or board is the kind of thinking typically done by insecure, ignorant, knuckle-dragging cretins. OK, done ranting now.
    A good friend of mine is 53. He bought a used mtb from a friend but complained of discomfort. I gave him a "junksaver" seat. Then he said his wrists were going numb. I said go buy a bike that fits your riding style and is comfortable, or you will never ride a bike again. He found the "bike discussed in this thread", test rode it, and plans on buying a pair for himself and his girlfriend. Once that happens, we have 2 more happy bike riders, and I have 2 more people I can ride with. Great!
    So..... Go find a bike you like. Forget the "Rowans" and other grump-mongerers. Let this forum educate you to other's experiences. Then go out and TEST RIDE, TEST RIDE, TEST RIDE!
    Happy New Year and "May the Force to Pedal be with you"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonH
    These "bikes" are for folks who ride for a few miles at a slow, casual pace on Saturday and Sunday only.
    They are not REAL cyclists and these "bikes" are not REAL bicycles.


    Personally, I wouldn't ride one. They look extremely uncomfortable to me.
    The arrogance of alleged 'real' cyclists is a source of constant amusement for me. What do people like this regard as a 'real' bicycle or a 'real' cyclist: one who has a $2,500+ thief magnet, who is often going so fast they can't stop at red-lights and stop-signs in city traffic? Those bikes are terrific, don't get me wrong, for some people and for specific purposes. But they are not for everyone and 'real' cyclists ride all types of different bikes. We, as cyclists, receive enough derision and disrespect from motorists, we don't need it from snooty, pretentious bike snobs who think they're so superior because they've got their snazzy bike-shorts, goggles, stream-lined helmets and clip-pedals. Not all are like that, of course, but clearly (as is evident from the quote above) there are some.

    I have owned racers, road bikes, etc. for more than twenty-five years and now ride a 3-speed (hub) cruiser with coaster brakes as my primary commuting bike and I couldn't be happier. It is comfortable and easy to operate, getting me where-ever I need to go reasonably quickly (and in style). While, I admit that they are heavier, slower and not suitable for long commutes, they do not apply strain on the lower back either, which would prevent me from riding even as much as two or three kilometers. I am as much of a 'real' cyclist as anyone else who chooses to ride a bike as his/her primary mode of transportation. If the townie suits you, buy it and ride it safe in the knowledge you are just as equal on the road as everyone else.

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    Even if the posts are genuine I think we have all read enough of the "I love Townies and all you nasty suspicious bike snobs can just deal with it" posts. It is just getting very very boring. We get the idea. Townies are great for casual riders and afford a very comfortable and relaxed riding position (or not depending on your pont of view). Lets move on now. Please only post in this thread if you have something new to contribute.

    I would respectfully suggest that this thread be closed.
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    OK, it may not be completely new, but I've read this entire thread (WHEW...) and have the following comment and questions:

    COMMENT: The Townie offers one advantage that other "cruiser" style bikes don't. I'm 6'2" tall, and on my current exercise bike/cruiser (A Dyno-Glide), the stock seat post can't be extended adequately to provide proper seat height. Since the original seat post immediately bent at full extension, I've replaced it with an industrial, stainless-steel pipe (with a brass shim to make it fit the seat tube). Even this is beginning to bend! With the Townie, the gusseted seat tube extension above the upper frame tube allows proper seat height with their stock seat-post! The few added inches of braced, seat tube extension make the difference. This is NOT a trivial issue for taller & heavier riders, who are poorly served by conventional cruisers. Unfortunately, good double-diamond frames with coaster brake hubs (like the old Schwinn Racer) are no longer available. This means that the ONLY currently-available frame with a coaster hub that will fit larger riders is the Townie (to the best of my knowledge..) If I'm mistaken, please let me know!

    QUESTION ONE: The design of the Townie requires an exceptionally long distance between the bottom bracket and the rear hub (significantly longer than double-diamond or cruiser frames). Is chain stretch a major issue for the Townie? I ask this question because I'm frequently having to adjust the chain tension on my Dyno-Glide as I pump during exercise. About once a month, the chain gets stretched to the point where I either readjust the tension or it begins jumping gears.

    QUESTION TWO: I've also broken the crank once on my Dyno-Glide (just twisted that puppy right in two in the middle of the bottom bracket!). I see that the Townie has a cotterless crank in aluminum. Since the steel ashtaubla crank on the Dyno-Glide didn't stand up to my stresses, will the aluminum crankset on the Townie be adequately robust? I'd like to hear from heaver riders who have purchased and used Townies for some period of time.

    QUESTION THREE: I've never owned an aluminum frame before. The steel frame on my current Dyno-Glide cruiser flexes noticably when I get down on it. Is there any reliabiliby problem with aluminum frames in general (or the Townie's in particular) that I should consider prior to purchase? Since everybody's probably wondering by now just how monsterous I am (broken cranks, stretched chains...), I'm currently at 260#. In spite of this weight, I have muscular legs and walk, run, and/or ride daily. I used to ride double-diamond frame 10-speeds, but now stick with coaster brake hubs for reliability. Again, I'd be interested in hearing heavier riders' experiences with the Townie.

    Thanks in advance for being gentle and helpful with me on this, my first post at BikeForums.

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    A few observations about the Townie. My wife has a 21 speed model and really likes it for riding about town and to work (about 5 miles one-way). The main reason she likes it is because she doesn't have to put any weight on her hands--you sit in a very upright position.

    Yesterday I actually rode it for a distance for the first time. I ride more traditional bikes and noticed a few things. Since your weight is not located over the cranks, you have to really hold on if you need to pedal hard--for example, uphill.

    I have upgraded her Townie with a different saddle (large gel comfort seat), replaced the shifters and rear derailleur. The stock Sram 3.0 grip shifters worked ok, but are difficult to use with winter gloves on. I have installed both fenders and rear rack, and it has eyelets for both. I think for short-distance riders that have concerns about 'numb' hands and neck problems the Townie is an acceptable solution. Just my 2˘ worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by royalflash
    Even if the posts are genuine I think we have all read enough of the "I love Townies and all you nasty suspicious bike snobs can just deal with it" posts. It is just getting very very boring. We get the idea. Townies are great for casual riders and afford a very comfortable and relaxed riding position (or not depending on your pont of view). Lets move on now. Please only post in this thread if you have something new to contribute.

    I would respectfully suggest that this thread be closed.
    No one forced you to open this thread, or read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarHorizon

    QUESTION ONE: The design of the Townie requires an exceptionally long distance between the bottom bracket and the rear hub (significantly longer than double-diamond or cruiser frames). Is chain stretch a major issue for the Townie? I ask this question because I'm frequently having to adjust the chain tension on my Dyno-Glide as I pump during exercise. About once a month, the chain gets stretched to the point where I either readjust the tension or it begins jumping gears.
    This is a good question. I personally would be a bit wary of a derailer on a bike with such long chainstays. On a three speed (or one speed), I doubt chain slack would be as potentially a big problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by FarHorizon
    QUESTION TWO: I've also broken the crank once on my Dyno-Glide (just twisted that puppy right in two in the middle of the bottom bracket!). I see that the Townie has a cotterless crank in aluminum. Since the steel ashtaubla crank on the Dyno-Glide didn't stand up to my stresses, will the aluminum crankset on the Townie be adequately robust? I'd like to hear from heaver riders who have purchased and used Townies for some period of time.
    The busted steel crank may have been a fluke. Still, on the Townie, it seems you're less likely to really bear down with all your weight.

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    What BB did you use?

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    I see this thread is quite old and the townie may have been one of the only bikes like this out at the time. However, this being several months later, has anyone had a chance to ride the new Suede by Giant? This bike is the same geometry and comes in 7 speed for $350. It also looks extremely good, at least to my eye. If you haven't seen my thread in commuting, check it out. The thread wasn't started about that bike, but soon became about it. theres a pic of it posted also.

    But i'd really like to hear if anyone has had experience with the giant yet. It may be too new, but i'm not really sure just how long it's been out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dazco
    ...has anyone had a chance to ride the new Suede by Giant? This bike is the same geometry...
    If I were Electra, I'd be suing Giant for patent infringement.

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    My wife and I just bought 2 Townies. We got the 21 speed for her and the 24 speed for myself. We live in Santa Cruz, CA so they are perfect for the kind of riding we will be doing. I've never owned a bike in my life and have only gone biking about 3 times in my life so I am excited and pleased so far after testing the bikes a couple of times.

    Finally we'll be able to use them this weekend!

    I am a bit surprised that I don not get that many web info or reviews of the townies after doing google searches... Are their any townie enthusiast websites or more reviews of these bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakine1
    We got the 21 speed for her and the 24 speed for myself.
    This sounds a little sexist to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakine1
    ...I've never owned a bike in my life and have only gone biking about 3 times in my life so I am excited and pleased so far after testing the bikes a couple of times.
    The "cool" thing about the new "flat foot" designs from Electra, Giant, and Trek is their appeal to people who are not regular riders. My friends who have not ridden a bike in years become rather nervous, sitting up high on a "traditional" frame, and being unable to easily get a foot on the ground. With traditional designs, a nervous rider will position the saddle far too low for proper leg extension, so it is easier to get a foot down.

    I suspect the next step in design might be to "marry" these designs with a short recumbent design. The result would be a bike is shorter in length, and easier to store than a traditional "bent", and that allows riders to sit even closer to the ground than on the Electra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randya
    This sounds a little sexist to me.
    Nope... We were working on a deal and the best discounted price was for bikes in the shop... So they only had a 24 Townie for men and 2 21 townie's for women... She got to replace her seat and even handle bars to a color scheme she liked better... We actually got 10% off each bike which really made the bikes a great deal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomsanborn
    I have seen enough negativecynical posts to know that I do not want to be part of this community.
    Tomsanborn,

    If you're still out there, please don't let the postings of some mudslingers and flame mongers prevent you from feeling welcome to visit and post on these forums. These individuals exist on every board on the internet; that's a fact of life with virtual communities. For every one of these, there are countless more individuals who genuinely like to share questions, answers, comments, and wisdom.

    I, for one, hope that you will reconsider staying....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sukispop
    Tomsanborn,

    If you're still out there, please don't let the postings of some mudslingers and flame mongers prevent you from feeling welcome to visit and post on these forums. These individuals exist on every board on the internet; that's a fact of life with virtual communities. For every one of these, there are countless more individuals who genuinely like to share questions, answers, comments, and wisdom.

    I, for one, hope that you will reconsider staying....

    if he can´t bear to read dissenting opinions I would suggest that he stays away from internet forums
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    Any way to bump. And I didn't think threads were allowed to be bumped on BF.

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