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    How to Avoid Bike Theft on Camping Trip?

    My wife and I bought bikes three months ago, and we'd really like to take them on our annual camping trip to the redwoods. But I'm having trouble envisioning how we're going to secure them against theft. I want to take them, but only if I have some confidence they will be as protected as they are when we lock them before going into the grocery store. Right now I have no such confidence. And yet I don't want to leave them at home if somebody else can come up with a good idea.

    There's nothing in the campsite to which we could attach our Kryptonite locks. There's a heavy wooden picnic table and a few young redwood trees on which we could use the 5/8-inch cable-lock; but I wouldn't want to rely solely on a cable-lock. I would prefer not to remove the wheels and seatposts every day to stow the bikes in the backseat of our Honda Accord, assuming they would fit. Our tent is big enough (barely) that we could stow both bikes inside, even at night; but during the day, if we're away from camp without our bikes, I wouldn't feel comfortable leaving them in the tent if our only safeguard against temptation, besides locking the bikes together, were the honor system that seems to have kept our sleeping bags and camp stove secure every year.

    Any campers out there who've surmounted this problem? I would appreciate any ideas.

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    I think locking the bikes to the table would be sufficent, if someone were to try to steal them, they would either have to take the whole table, or cut the table up. Either one would make quite a bit of noise and I dont think anyone would risk it. Besides, these are just families around the campsite, not expert burgulars. And if there were burgulars they would go for your car first.

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    You could use the Kryptonites to lock the rear wheels to the frame and then use the cable lock to lock the bikes to the table. Bike locks are all about deterrernce. If you make your bike inconvenient enough to steal, you're usually OK. Locking the wheels to the frame doesn't keep the bike from being moved, but it does keep the bike from being ridden away if the cable lock is cut.

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    Going camping for a week in Wisconsin and leaving tomorrow. We take 4 bikes with us, mine, the wifes and 2 kids. Theyre not really expensive but replacing mine would run upwards of $1000. We have never locked them when we leave the campsite. Camping is all about the honor system and trust. Maybe I'll get burned one of these times but weve been taking the bikes along camping for 5-6 years with no problems and been camping for 20 years without an incident. I would think a cable lock around the picnic table would suffice if you are concerned. Have fun, share some pics. Would love to go camping there someday

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    It is unlikely anyone could cut through this without power tools or a very large pair of chain cutters. Locking your bikes to the picnic table with this chain lock would ensure that if anyone really wanted the bikes they would have to make some noise to get them.

    http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...Chainlock.aspx

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    Thanks for your input, everyone. I've camped in the redwoods every year for twenty years and I've never been the victim of thievery. I'm sure you're right: a good cable lock around the picnic table should be sufficient. Until three months ago I hadn't owned a bike since my Peugeot 10-speed, which I'd bought only a few months earlier, was stolen out of my school parking lot in February 1984. And to this day I haven't gotten over it.

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    How do you plan on getting the bikes there? My friends and I usually use a roof rack with lock cores, and we lock the bikes to the rack and the rack to the car. We've used cable locks on trees too, and they've been fine, though this was always at bike friendly campgrounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr11 View Post
    How do you plan on getting the bikes there? My friends and I usually use a roof rack with lock cores, and we lock the bikes to the rack and the rack to the car....
    We use a trunk-mounted Hollywood Baja 3-bike rack. It's a great rack to get bikes to and from, but it provides no security whatever.

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    We also use the honor system when we camp. We also camp with GLPUC a lot so there is always someone around. That really helps out a bunch too, camping with friends whenever possible. As we are getting into more expensive bikes as the kids are growing, I'm gonna start checking into locking them to the picnic table when we camp alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
    Going camping for a week in Wisconsin and leaving tomorrow. We take 4 bikes with us, mine, the wifes and 2 kids. Theyre not really expensive but replacing mine would run upwards of $1000. We have never locked them when we leave the campsite. Camping is all about the honor system and trust. Maybe I'll get burned one of these times but weve been taking the bikes along camping for 5-6 years with no problems and been camping for 20 years without an incident. I would think a cable lock around the picnic table would suffice if you are concerned. Have fun, share some pics. Would love to go camping there someday
    We leave for the redwoods at the end of the week. I hope we see you there some day. Meanwhile, here are some pics from past trips. (FYI: The yellow thing is a banana slug, a redwoods native.)










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    fun fun

    I've been on some large group rides with several hundred bikes. Interestingly nobody locks up any of the bikes, and they never have problems. Perhaps safety in numbers?

    When we go camping, I always throw a cable lock through the frames for piece of mind. It would never stop someone if they were really determined, but hope it stops a quick and easy theft. I'd like to hope you have little to worry about.

    Enjoy your trip, it sounds like a blast.

    Jealous =]~

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    Nice pics! Looks like your reaaly enjoying it.
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    Cable lock your frames to a table and stow your front wheels and saddles in your trunk. Lock them and make them less appealing to a possible thief. Nobody's going joyriding without front wheels and saddles.

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    Re: Bike theft

    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    My wife and I bought bikes three months ago, and we'd really like to take them on our annual camping trip to the redwoods. But I'm having trouble envisioning how we're going to secure them against theft. I want to take them, but only if I have some confidence they will be as protected as they are when we lock them before going into the grocery store. Right now I have no such confidence. And yet I don't want to leave them at home if somebody else can come up with a good idea.

    There's nothing in the campsite to which we could attach our Kryptonite locks. There's a heavy wooden picnic table and a few young redwood trees on which we could use the 5/8-inch cable-lock; but I wouldn't want to rely solely on a cable-lock. I would prefer not to remove the wheels and seatposts every day to stow the bikes in the backseat of our Honda Accord, assuming they would fit. Our tent is big enough (barely) that we could stow both bikes inside, even at night; but during the day, if we're away from camp without our bikes, I wouldn't feel comfortable leaving them in the tent if our only safeguard against temptation, besides locking the bikes together, were the honor system that seems to have kept our sleeping bags and camp stove secure every year.

    Any campers out there who've surmounted this problem? I would appreciate any ideas.
    OK, I know this sounds really primative but you could tie one end of a thin string to the bike and the other end of it to your wrist.

    This way a thief will awaken you when trying to steal your bike.
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    Our first camping trip last year, someone stole our hamburgers and cheese out of the cooler. I suspected raccoons, but there was no mess, so it was bandits of the human type. Now I lock everything up when I go camping. For bikes, we have 4. We loop one lock around the picnic table, and 1-2 bikes. Then we lock the bikes to each other, so if they want one bike, they have to cut 2 locks. I don't worry too much about seats, but they could always be removed at stowed in the truck.

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    Can you put a cable/chain around your car's bumper? Or around/through something in the undercarrige? Worst case,you could always loop a chain or cable around a wheel. They'd have to jack up or move the car somehow. A wooden picnic table can be sawed or dissasembled.

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    the honor system could fail, especially in today's so perfect world
    the locking to the car frame sounds like your best bet. Where in the redwoods? Santa cruz? looks like some AWSOME trails. respond with pm, or other? thanks :]

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    Hope the trip was a great succes for you and the bikes.

    You can find these for dirt cheap at Dollar Stores or online and home improvement stores for not much more



    They are a very basic and simple battery opperated door / window alarm. The sounder has a simple on / off switch on the side. If the small magnet section is moved away when in the on position, it produces a surprisingly loud 110 db sounder. You just need to turn off the sounder before you move the magnet away.

    There are all kinds of creative ways you can use them to protect bicycles and other items.

    Lock up the bikes and place one of those cheap blue tarps around them, securing the tarps via Bungee cords. Place one of these alarms "with the magnet next to it" under one of the folds so they won't separate unless you start trying to pull the tarp off. As soon as someone even starts to pull the tarps up they will sound the alarm. Unless they think there is no one within 1000 yards to hear the alarm, they won't stick around long enough to try and find the source of the alarm. Their only concern will be to get away before anyone sees them there.

    I like the idea of placing the bikes in the tent when your away. Use one of the Self Contained Motion Detector / Siren and Remote's you can pick up pretty cheap.
    After you zip up the tent, you use the keyfob remote to arm it. If it sees motion it will sound the alarm. This will protect bikes and all contents of the tent You just deactivate it with the keyfob before you open and step into your tent. Battery operated and should last for several weeks before worries of needed to replace the batteries.


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    I'm back from my 10-day camping trip. The bikes did not get stolen. At first I U-locked my bike to my wife's, cable-locked all three (our friend's bike too) to a laurel tree in our campsite, and covered them with a blue tarp.



    When I removed my bike at 7AM the tarp sounded like thunder. And I was the only one of us who rode every day. So after a couple of days I began keeping my bike apart--in the tent when we were away in the daytime and in my car at night.

    Here's my bike next to an old-growth redwood tree.



    I was glad to see the Yurok people don't hold a grudge.



    Although this was my first trip with bikes, I've camped in the redwoods every year for 20 years. Anyone planning to camp there with bikes should be aware that the air is damp 24/7, even in summer. The only place that stays relatively dry is the inside of your vehicle, which is where you'll dry your bath towel when you can't get direct sunlight. A tarp will keep the rain off your bike, but won't keep moisture away. Before your trip, re-apply grease wherever grease goes and use a durable water-resistent lube (e.g., Finish Line Cross Country) on your chain.

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    Alarm is good.

    I always bring foldingbikes for this sort of trips. Can be locked into the car or placed in the tent as the last thing before sleeping.

    Shopping is no problem. One person shop, one is the "watchdog" and stay with the bikes.

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    don't use a cable lock

    The only reason to use a cable lock is because a secure chain / lock weighs too much to carry with you when cycling.

    Try this one: http://www.kryptonitelock.com/Produc...=1002&pid=1169
    You will feel a lot more secure.

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    I was verbally chastised for locking my bikes on a camping trip by other campers. Which was all the more reason why I kept them locked.
    Bikes use brakes to stop.

    If your bike has breaks, don't ride it.

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    I never lock up my bike when I go camping.
    Instead I dig a two to three foot deep hole and place the bike in it.
    Then I cover the bike with dirt, twigs, and leaves.
    Presto! Bike is now hidden from woodland thieves.
    My grandfather taught me that trick - he used it during the time he was kicking the Brits out of Dunkirk.

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    If you're driving there, you can buy a pretty substantial chain or cable lock and lock 'em all to a sizeable tree. I would not leave them unlocked if they have any value. It is not at all uncommon to have cars broken into at trailheads, for example. If the riding area is flattish, get some old cheap cruisers to take.
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    Bike alarm is the best way out for you I think. You will not offend people by showing you don't trust them having your bike locked on to the table and at the same time it will make a lot of noise if someone will try to steal your bike or remove something of it and he will not want to try it again.
    Try something like this:
    1 http://www.central-alarms.com/alarms...security_.html
    2 http://www.kiramek.com/english/products/bikewatch/
    3 http://www.c-p-p.co.uk/category/asp/...26/af/page.htm

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