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    Carbon Fiber Tour Easy Handlebars

    Has anybody seen or purchased these bars yet? These would be HOT on a TiRush, that's for sure!

    http://www.boomspeed.com/papasbent/index.html
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    ebay

    There was an auction on ebay last week for these bars, the auction disappeared? I don't think the auction had any bids. How much are they? They don't appear to be adjustable. Do they have bosses for drink holders? What about fairing mounts? Seems like the fabricator is trying to go "high end" with the serial numbers, special badges, etc...but the price is going to have to be in line with other offerings that are more adjustable/offer more features, or sales are going to only be based on the novelty of carbon fiber. The 18.5" rise dimension is more like the EZ-1 bars instead of the Easy Racers bars, so Gold Rush/Toureasy owners will probably also have to swap stems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atombikes
    They don't appear to be adjustable.
    Neither are the TE bars. However, the Papa bars are appearently shaped and sized to order - not an option, i'm told, from Easy Racers.
    Quote Originally Posted by atombikes
    Seems like the fabricator is trying to go "high end" with the serial numbers, special badges, etc...but the price is going to have to be in line with other offerings that are more adjustable/offer more features, or sales are going to only be based on the novelty of carbon fiber.
    Adjustability is nice, to be sure. But if the carbon fiber bars do as stated, "eliminate fatigue, hand numbness, and noise caused by road vibrations", and are custom taylored to the rider's ergonomic requirements (including bottle mount locations), then I would certainly consider them. And "novelty", (and/or stupidity) is spending $159.00 for 2 sticks of wood, just to keep your pants dry.
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    vibration

    Quote Originally Posted by MagicFingers
    But if the carbon fiber bars do as stated, "eliminate fatigue, hand numbness, and noise caused by road vibrations
    I'm curious, the Youngs modulus of carbon fiber is not quite as high as steel, but they're in the same ballpark. This means the stress to strain ratio is about the same. Meaning they're roughly the same stiffness, but differing weights (I assume). If that is the case, then can I assume that the natural frequency of the carbon fiber handlebars is different than the steel bars, and this is what allows the carbon bars to eliminate fatigue/numbness/noise due to vibration?

    The adjustable bars I refer to are not an Easy Racers product, but a RANS product:

    http://www.shoprans.com/proddetail.asp?prod=BAHB0008

    And at $70.00, they are more than the Easy Racers stock bars, but PROBABLY less than these carbon bars. Do we know what the price is? and what happened to the ebay auction?
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    I like the bling factor of carbon as much as anybody, but do these bars really solve a problem? I mean, how much fatigue due to vibration does the typical TE/GRR/TiRush rider experience? Not much, I would think. Also, I would be wary of buying from an unknown maker. Not that it matters much for me, since none of my bents take ape-hanger bars. Maybe some TE owners can chime in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
    I like the bling factor of carbon as much as anybody, but do these bars really solve a problem? I mean, how much fatigue due to vibration does the typical TE/GRR/TiRush rider experience? Not much, I would think.
    As a 9 year LWB veteran, I've riden nearly every OSS LWB format available except the Ti-rush and some of the more recent manufactures. With my 165 pounds, "Road buzz", is more evident on lightly loaded (less mass), LWB's with maxed air pressure, on chip seal surfaces. Not only do I feel it, but it's annoying existence is clearly observed via unreadable computers and blurred mirrors. And even when an occasional ride occupies me with gorgous scenery and sweet stretches of silence, I nearly always dismount with tingling fingers - a persistant reminder.


    Quote Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
    Also, I would be wary of buying from an unknown maker. Not that it matters much for me, since none of my bents take ape-hanger bars. Maybe some TE owners can chime in.
    Well of course. But bare in mind that he/she has to start somewhere, so why verbally shoot'em down without a fair assesment?

    Additional referrences:

    http://www.bikepro.com/products/hand...lebarover.html

    "The composite, carbon fibre, or thermo-plastic bar has the unique property of not passing low amplitude or high frequency vibrations through the bar into the riders hands. Because there is no single material or metal which will conduct the vibration, much of it is dissipated in and among the dis-similar layers."

    http://www.dirtworld.com/productrevi...ory.asp?id=197

    "If you're not a gram counter, there's still a benefit worth considering with a carbon bar. The Easton CT2, like other carbon bars has an incredible ride feel. The carbon fiber naturally absorbs high-frequency vibration thus reducing hand fatigue."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicFingers
    But bare in mind that he/she has to start somewhere, so why verbally shoot'em down without a fair assesment?
    I don't believe I 'shot'em down.' I merely pointed out that the maker is anonymous, which is more unsettling than being merely not famous. And the price is still unspecified. Does the maker have a track record of making durable carbon parts? (Does the product even exist?) Is there a warranty? All we have to go on is a web page on a generic hosting site.

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    I don't usually subscribe to forums, but made a exception this time to share my experience about my newly acquired, Papa's carbon fiber handlebars. I ordered them on June 2nd, and received them yesterday - three days before the quoted 2 weeks. They are fabulous! Workmanship is literally flawless and far exceeds any composite component I've purchased - bar none. I'll post a detailed road report when I put a few more miles on them. I can say that during my first ride with these bars I honestly thought my front tire was low because of the absents vibrations - One word, WOW!

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    I recently visited the Easyracers factory to have my EZ Sport seat foam upgraded. While there I discussed the problem with the wrist angles on their handlebars. The guy I spoke with was like me, he likes them almost straight. The current configuration is done so they will easily fit behind the zipper fairing. They may not want this getting out, but I was told that they would bend up a pair any way I wanted them. I didn't ask about cost because I already had mine cut & rewelded. bk

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