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Old 01-07-07, 09:58 PM   #1
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Recumbent Prices (:-o)

DAM the prices up here in Toronto Canada are HUGE , I have been looking at getting a recumbent for quite some time due to my back on DF bikes , I was really wanting the Catrike road trike but had settled on the GrassHopper but it's above three thousand , for those that are lucky enough to own a recumbent I envy you,, I had dreams of driving my Bent along the water front trail camping and driving way up North but I have to wait till the prices come down
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Start looking for a USED one!
I got a Tour Easy for $650. A Challenge Hurricane for $600. A Greenspeed GTX for $2,000.
Deals ARE out there! Keep looking and have money ready. Good deals will go quickly!
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Check out Rebel Cycles in Canada... No import duties or hassles for a great value TW/Bents bent or trike.
http://www.rebel-cycles.com/products.html
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DAM the prices up here in Toronto Canada are HUGE , I have been looking at getting a recumbent for quite some time due to my back on DF bikes , I was really wanting the Catrike road trike but had settled on the GrassHopper but it's above three thousand , for those that are lucky enough to own a recumbent I envy you,, I had dreams of driving my Bent along the water front trail camping and driving way up North but I have to wait till the prices come down
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Start looking for a USED one!
I got a Tour Easy for $650. A Challenge Hurricane for $600. A Greenspeed GTX for $2,000.
Deals ARE out there! Keep looking and have money ready. Good deals will go quickly!

I've decided to quit shopping and just follow Doc around. It looks like it might pay off dividends.
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I have to wait till the prices come down

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You could be waiting a long time! I recommend you look into getting a used bent, or a cheaper new one (Actionbent, Rebel Cycles, Sun, entry level models from Rans/Bacchetta). Recumbent manufacturing, for the most part (IMO), is a small-scale cottage industry (er, almost), and high prices are not uncommon. European bikes such as the HP especially go for a premium. However, many experienced riders would say that the price is worth it. Don't forget a lot of roadies happily drop $1700+ for their bikes.
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Put an "In search of" or "Want to buy" ad here: http://www.bentrideronline.com/messa...isplay.php?f=6

You may be surprised what comes out of the garages and barns! Also try Jeff at rebel cycles. He has a nice trike.

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Thanks for the referrals, guys. I even have a used USS recumbent (a Ghost) available right now. The owner had it for three months before deciding he preferred above seat steering.
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The direct-from-the-distributor bikes can be a fair bargain for someone who is mechanically competent and is willing to fix things themself or deal long distance with the distributor when problems develop. Bents are just more expensive to make than your plain vanilla upright, so don't expect them to ever get as cheap as an entry-level DF. The US dollar being weak, and the Canadian dollar being even weaker doesn't help things either.

For an in-between solution that might work and isn't as expensive, you might try some of the crank-forward bikes. They have more upright position that might not aggravate your back the way most DFs do. The RANS lineup is the best of them; the Fusion can be had for less than a thou in US fundage. Other cheaper but less capable substitutes are made by several manufacurers: Electra Townie and Giant Suede come to mind.
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You might try this out. Murray Cleland at http://www.recumbenttrikes.ca/

I bought my '06 Catrike "Road" from Murray as he was almost $800 cheaper than Urbane. Murray works out of his home, has a good sized fleet for test rides, an excellent paved trail nearby and since he's a small dealer, he's not required to charge GST. He might have something "used" or a demo he is willing to let go at a significant savings. Just my 2 cents.
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Anyone looking for an ICE tandem trike? PM me.
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thanks for the replies , I have been looking at the Ghost Bent from Rebel , a very nice looking bike . I wanted trikes at one point but they are a very tight fit for me , ,,,,,,(Urbane is very pricey)
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Oops! My savings should be closer to $300, not $800. I paid $2650 and Murray threw in a complete fender set for free. My Urbane quote, in March '06, was $2800 base price plus 15% in taxes. Sorry for the confusion.
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For an in-between solution that might work and isn't as expensive, you might try some of the crank-forward bikes. They have more upright position that might not aggravate your back the way most DFs do. The RANS lineup is the best of them; the Fusion can be had for less than a thou in US fundage. Other cheaper but less capable substitutes are made by several manufacurers: Electra Townie and Giant Suede come to mind.
Yes, there are now a slew of sub-$500 (U.S.) crank-forward bikes out, some as low as $300-$350. These include the Giant Suede, Electra Townie, Trek Pure, and Raleigh Gruv. The Gruv has been recently discontinued but is still available. The Suede is a rather conservative crank forward, with the crank only being about 3" forward of its normal position, wherein on the Gruv it is more like 6". They all have rather mid-level, or below, components. Some have only Shimano Tourney or SRAM ESP3.0 derailleurs, others are a bit above that at Shimano Acera. They are fun to ride, I took a Gruv on an extended spin last weekend and had a blast on it.

Trek had the Sole out in 2006 and it is probably still around, but I didn't like it much. And there's a slight crank forward Electra Amsterdam that is a very pretty commuter bike at $550-$600, but only in a 3-speed.

None are the match of the Rans bikes, but are far less expensive.
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DAM the prices up here in Toronto Canada are HUGE , I have been looking at getting a recumbent for quite some time due to my back on DF bikes , I was really wanting the Catrike road trike but had settled on the GrassHopper but it's above three thousand , for those that are lucky enough to own a recumbent I envy you,, I had dreams of driving my Bent along the water front trail camping and driving way up North but I have to wait till the prices come down
Buy used. I had been saving for a Cattrike Road, but found a used one with only a few hundred miles on it for $800 less than a new one. Prices are all over the place on used stuff, but there are lots of great deals.

Lots of people who buy great equipment don't use it much, so you can pretty much get new stuff from previous years at huge savings.
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Yes, there are now a slew of sub-$500 (U.S.) crank-forward bikes out, some as low as $300-$350. These include the Giant Suede, Electra Townie, Trek Pure, and Raleigh Gruv. The Gruv has been recently discontinued but is still available. The Suede is a rather conservative crank forward, with the crank only being about 3" forward of its normal position, wherein on the Gruv it is more like 6". They all have rather mid-level, or below, components. Some have only Shimano Tourney or SRAM ESP3.0 derailleurs, others are a bit above that at Shimano Acera. They are fun to ride, I took a Gruv on an extended spin last weekend and had a blast on it.

Trek had the Sole out in 2006 and it is probably still around, but I didn't like it much. And there's a slight crank forward Electra Amsterdam that is a very pretty commuter bike at $550-$600, but only in a 3-speed.

None are the match of the Rans bikes, but are far less expensive.
I don't think much of the lower-priced "relaxed geometry" bikes, because they don't use a geometry that is nearly relaxed enough. They suffer a big loss in pedalling efficiency while only providing a minor difference in comfort. They don't really solve the saddle problems that upright bikes have--and if you're going to the hassle, you should get a real relaxed-geometry bike and enjoy the benefits.

The only one that is interesting is the Giant Revive, because its rear suspension can be of some use to people with bad backs, who want to avoid as much road shock as possible. But then, at $700 MSRP for the lowest model, the Revive isn't exactly cheap, either.

If you cannot afford the $1K+ for a RANS, then two others to consider are the Lightfoot Surefoot and Day6Bicycles, both sold mail-order.
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DAM the prices up here in Toronto Canada are HUGE , I have been looking at getting a recumbent for quite some time due to my back on DF bikes , I was really wanting the Catrike road trike but had settled on the GrassHopper but it's above three thousand , for those that are lucky enough to own a recumbent I envy you,, I had dreams of driving my Bent along the water front trail camping and driving way up North but I have to wait till the prices come down
Catrike is an expensive brand, the prices aren't ever going to come down, and you're not getting any younger.

What you might consider doing is buying a cheaper trike, while you keep looking for the [used] Catrike of your dreams. If you insist on waiting for a great deal on a particular model of bike, you could end up waiting a really, really long time.
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If you cannot afford the $1K+ for a RANS, then two others to consider are the Lightfoot Surefoot and Day6Bicycles, both sold mail-order.
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There is an LBS which is just a couple of blocks from my office. It is a huge LBS, occupying 5 buildings and with at least 1500 bikes in stock. They have one floor of a store dedicated to bents and crank forwards. So unlike a store that might have a half-dozen bents squeezed into some space at the end of an aisle, they have about 25 different bents & trikes in stock. And they are doing a good business in selling a lot of bents.

I'm giving this detail because while this LBS is an authorized Rans dealer, and has multiple Rans bents on the floor, they have stopped carrying the Rans crank forwards due to almost non-existent sales. When I stopped by recently and inquired as to whether they had Rans CFs, they told me that I was the first person to ask about them in months. They told me that it took them about a year to sell off the last three floor models at discounted prices. They could order one for me, but I would have to commit to buying it and pay for it upfront.

So I contacted the next closest Rans authorized dealer and they gave me the same story. Quit stocking them because they couldn't sell them.

I hear a lot of positives about the Rans CFs on various on-line forums. And a lot of recommendations to check them out. But I'm finding that checking them out is a very difficult assignment. Apparently getting people to pay $1000+ for a CF bike is not easy.
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There is an LBS which is just a couple of blocks from my office. ....I'm giving this detail because while this LBS is an authorized Rans dealer, and has multiple Rans bents on the floor, they have stopped carrying the Rans crank forwards due to almost non-existent sales. .... I'm finding that checking them out is a very difficult assignment. Apparently getting people to pay $1000+ for a CF bike is not easy.
I ordered mine in October 2006 and had to wait a month to get it, so I didn't get any test ride before ordering either. The shop I went to had a 2005 Cruz (with the 20" front wheel) they offered a deal on, it was $750 then. I didn't like the different-sized wheels. It's tagged $700 now, and still there.

For a while RANS had a deal going where you could get one mail-order and return it if you didn't like it; you may want to look into that.

For test-riding purposes you might visit the crank-forwards forum and post your town, maybe someone hnear you will have one you can meet up and try out.

I love mine, it's great.
It's something between a recumbent and an upright; much handier than a recumbent but still pretty normal-looking and a lot more comfortable than an upright. It only has one riding position which I think may put off a lot of "upright" riders used to being able to stand, but for bent riders that's not a problem.
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Catrike is an expensive brand, the prices aren't ever going to come down, and you're not getting any younger.
Perspective is a funny thing. I consider Catrike one of the cheaper brands. But I'm comparing it to Wizwheels, Windcheetah, Greenspeed, Optima, and Trice. If your standard for affordability is a Funcycle, then yes, Catrike is expensive.
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I hear a lot of positives about the Rans CFs on various on-line forums. And a lot of recommendations to check them out. But I'm finding that checking them out is a very difficult assignment. Apparently getting people to pay $1000+ for a CF bike is not easy.
That's unfortunate, because the RANS bikes are light years ahead of the competition. I guess the target audience tends to buy based on price, with weight and component level relegated to a tertiary consideration. I understand, though; we all know someone who buys stuff based on price alone.
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Catrike is an expensive brand, the prices aren't ever going to come down, and you're not getting any younger.

What you might consider doing is buying a cheaper trike, while you keep looking for the [used] Catrike of your dreams. If you insist on waiting for a great deal on a particular model of bike, you could end up waiting a really, really long time.
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First off, Catrikes aren't an "expensive" brand. I've test ridden a few trikes, and the one I really liked the best was the Greenspeed. It was $2000 more than the Road, and that was on sale! The Catrike road was the second best ride, but was a price I could afford. Catrikes do seem to hold their value pretty well. Looking for used, remember a number of people have brought a new trike only to use it very little, so the price may be 10-20% less than new, and it's still in great shape to boot. For a catrike try the for sale columns at www.bentrideronline.com or www.catrike.com
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thanks for the replies , I have been looking at the Ghost Bent from Rebel , a very nice looking bike . I wanted trikes at one point but they are a very tight fit for me , ,,,,,,(Urbane is very pricey)
A friend of mine has a couple nice trikes for sale right now and lives in Mississauga.
Give him a shout.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/bowden10/index.html

Once you get one, send an email and we can keep you posted about the local groups and events.
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A friend of mine has a couple nice trikes for sale right now and lives in Mississauga.
Give him a shout.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/bowden10/index.html

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I can't fit comfortably in a Trike ,, me to BIG but thanks for the help.
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I've seen some pretty BIG guys with trikes. They aren't all the same size. However, it does limit your ability to find a used one.
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