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    Locking up your recumbent?

    Hey everyone,

    I live in a college town... and will soon be commuting by recumbent. How does everyone lock up their 'bents?

    I've been considering the Master Lock Street Cuff 9-link SS (stainless steel). I understand that they have reports of awful customer service - but from what I recall all of these are at least a couple of years ago. I have to imagine things may have changed since then? For one, I have yet to see a review of what seems to be the newest model - the SS 9-link.

    I like this lock because it seems to be the most convenient (that or the regular 9-link)... vs the other options. I can't imagine lugging a FAHGETTABOUTIT chain - even though it's one of the best. I'm not too much a fan of U locks either - what if the bar you're attaching it to (or pole or whatever) is too thick?

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    Are you asking what lock to use or how to lock your bent to something? I would use a high quality U-lock or a chain w/ a lock. Ideally I would also use a cable w/ a lock as it would take two different sets of tools to defeat both locks.

    As for how to lock up your bent it really depends on what type you are riding.
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    I don't live in the college setting so don't know the risk involved... I have a cable lock for our small town stuff. Whether a bent or a DF the lock quality remains the same...good lock less risk of disappearing bike.

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    Couldn't that lock be a problem when you run across a thief with a standard chain breaker?
    Why not just go to the cop-supply-shop and get a real pair of hand cuffs?
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    Good link HERE ...it is true... 15 lb bike = 10 lb lock
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    Quote Originally Posted by vik
    Are you asking what lock to use or how to lock your bent to something? I would use a high quality U-lock or a chain w/ a lock. Ideally I would also use a cable w/ a lock as it would take two different sets of tools to defeat both locks.

    As for how to lock up your bent it really depends on what type you are riding.

    Heh, should've specified for clearly... a bit of both but most of all I was wondering what lock to use (which you've already mentioned).
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    Thanks for the link! Taking a look at the kryptonite Fahgettaboutit U lock... how do you use that to lock a bent? I mean... it seems like the amount of things you can attach to via a U lock is very limited, no?

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    I have a Sun EZ1-SX... but with the accessories and everything I'm adding to it - it's net worth will be about $3500 (electrifying it... with all sorts of other goodies like a tailsok)... this area isn't high in crime... I have yet to have anything stolen from my upright where I live... I don't lock the front wheel, and have never had any such problem. However, with the EZ1 things are a bit different given the cost!

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    At least an EZ-1 has a trussed frame vs a monotube. That means you can run something through the frame and back wheel. Since you are parking in a relatively low-crime area, a 30-pound chain might be overkill. The cable/chain/U-lock issue is probably less important than making sure it's not a cheapie. I've always been partial to cables, but given a determined thief any system can be defeated.

    I'm curious why you would spend that much on electrifying a bicycle, when for the same amount of money you could get a small, fuel-efficient motorcycle that would have better lighting, heavier drive train, and suspension. In short, it would be engineered for its intended use vs a bicycle with a kludged motor system bolted on.

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    Thanks for the info!

    I see your point blazing.

    I'd consider a motorbike... but driving a Prius, getting 200 mpg for even just a gas-powered bicycle is pretty much a joke for me. I might as well keep driving locally if I were to consider a motorbike . This electric kit is one of the best kits out there, using lithium batteries (ecospeed 37 volt). The kit weighs about 25 pounds... and should take the bike ~35-45 mph. Other costs add on from the accessories, like a TailSok.

    No getting gas... no fumes... no maintenance outside regular bike care... and no noise... easy to just pop into the hatch. I can't do this with a motorbike. Sooner or later I'll be getting solar panels... making it all the more efficient. (and I don't have the image in my mind of a gas motor belching out gobs of smoke in the tailpipe).

    Having a friend who actually hit a biker coming out of a parking lot... and how fast some drive here... I would never consider taking my upright on the road... but would a powered one.

    Also, with a powered kit I can bike down to the rail trail. Everything here is spread out... and even if I had the legs for the hills and distances here, I wouldn't have the time for it at unpowered speeds... especially given the kind of time I have these days. IE I wouldn't ever take out my upright beyond the short commute to my school.

    Those are my reasons for going the expensive (and heavily modified rather than 'made for') route rather than getting a gas-powered or custom electric bicycle or motorbike/cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Swann
    who would want to steal one of those pieces of ****?
    How nice, troll. You're a new member as of this month & you come in here & post this crap?! Go back to living under your bridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N_C
    How nice, troll. You're a new member as of this month & you come in here & post this crap?! Go back to living under your bridge.
    He may be a troll, but at least he's a dork. So far, he's made 3 posts and none of them have been helpful, or even civil for that matter.
    http://www.bikeforums.net/search.php?searchid=3354675

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
    He may be a troll, but at least he's a dork. So far, he's made 3 posts and none of them have been helpful, or even civil for that matter.
    http://www.bikeforums.net/search.php?searchid=3354675
    I noticed 2 of them are in the commuting forum & 1 is in here & there have only been 3 of them. Should he be reported as a troll who intends to disrupt the flow of the forum or should he be given the benefit of the doubt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Swann
    who would want to steal one of those pieces of ****?
    Obviously his recumbent is safe from guys like you. Watch it bub, or you'll be on your way to ban-land in no time.


    Back to the question, I agree that a cable+ulock combination is probably your best bet. If you're worried about the weight, and you always park at the same place, then just leave the heavier lock right on the rack. It's waht I do at work; my u-lock stay attached from monday to friday, and I bring it home on weekends.

    You can also decrease your risk of theft by parking next to other bikes that are more easily stolen, or by locking up to natural gas pipes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Swann
    who would want to steal one of those pieces of ****?
    GOLD???

    and the answer is NO ONE!

    That's why I don't bother to lock mine.

    What would you do with it, if you stole it?
    There's not a street or trail where you're going to "blend"!
    (and if you did, I'm sure at least one of the other recumbent riders would spot the stolen steed!)
    and you can't fence it for the same reason!

    The thing I worry about is all the little bits that people will nab. The valve caps, computer, lights, etc.

    I guess I should just go back to my usual security measure...a sticker that reads;

    "This bike is not worth your life!" S&W logo next to text.

    BTW, John Swann, if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all!
    Or did you drop out of kindergarten before you learned that?

    Mods, please show JS the door!

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    Get this guy off the forum

    Get out John if you're going to be an Ass

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    HEY? Where did John Swann go???



    Thanks mods!!


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    Blazing, with all due respect, your comment ending with "vs a bicycle with a kludged motor system bolted on." Struck a note with me. While I do own a bent longer than most could ride (I'm 6'6") I also own an electrified DF bicycle that is quite impressive. With only 6-speeds I've had it up to 28mph. If I had more gears I could break 30 easily. It was a fun project. (bike was found on side of the road btw) Heck man, don't knock it until you've tried it. :-). 4x12v Go-hub. It's a blast to ride man, silent smooth etc.. And that Schwinn is one tough bike.

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    I hope I didn't fray your nerves too much. What I meant was, that although the motor may be well-engineered, the bike usually isn't designed to take the added stress of riding at higher speeds all the time. By contrast, a motorcycle or moped will have a Built-in electrical systems and lighting, stronger frame, suspension, heavier wider tires, and stronger brakes. Not to mention a more comfortable seat. In short, it'll be engineered as a total package. Obviously there are reasons to electrify a bike. To me, what I'd end up with is too much like what I'd be starting with to justify the $$$. YMMV.

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    Don't know if I'm hijacking the thread but even if I do there's already a wealth of info on how and what to use to lock up a bike.

    My question (triggered by Doc's post) is..... Are bents in real jeopardy of being ripped off? Bike jackers seem to have priorities and they seem to be straight handlebared upright bikes. One of the drawbacks of bents is their size, this liability becomes an asset when considering theft. It would seem unloading a "hot" one is more hassle than most thiefs would go through. I mean, if they're too lazy to get a job and earn the money for one how much work are they willing to go through get, use, and/or sell one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opedaler
    My question (triggered by Doc's post) is..... Are bents in real jeopardy of being ripped off?
    Only if you leave it for an extended period, like overnight, locked up on the "wrong side of the tracks"!
    But even so, where are they going to sell the thing? It's easy to spot recumbents at this period in time so they definately AREN'T going to blend in. So even riding it will not go unnoticed for too long.

    I've found my 'bents surrounded with curious onlookers when I've left them unlocked outside the store I'm visiting. Not too worried about theft with so many people standing around.
    Again, it's the little bits that I concern myself with. I usually pop off the computer if the bike is going to be out of my sight for long.

    So unless you make it irresistable to steal, I think most thieves recognise a "bad" target when they see one. I'd bet they would try to steal a midrange MTB that was locked, before they decided to steal an UNlocked reumbent. Granted, I'm not going to actually TEST that theory, but that's what I think.

    And it's nice not to have to drag around a heavy lock and mess with it everytime you leave the bike for 5 minutes. And as a college student, I always left my bikes where I could see them from the classroom.
    Or INside the classroom, as long as I got there early.

    Unfortunately, with the price of gas going up, up, up, I'm sure it won't be long before the thieves realize the market is hot for recumbents. And how expensive they are. So they will step up to supply "hot" recumbents.

    Guess I better find some more of those stickers that say...
    "This bike is not worth your LIFE!" next to a S&W logo.
    Mine's a 6" 629 BTW!

    So if somebody wants to steal my 'bent, all I can say is..."Go ahead! MAKE MY DAY!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaman
    Good link HERE ...it is true... 15 lb bike = 10 lb lock

    While that was a good test, I read a recent article where a guy takes a small jack and defeats U-locks in about 10 seconds. I use a cable lock now because I'm nearby, but for anything else I'll get one of the chain locks.
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    Doesn't anyone have a good alarm system for a bike?
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    Someone in the power-assist yahoogroup (where I learned how to electrify my bike) mentioned a motorcycle pager-oriented alarm from JC Whitney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaman
    Doesn't anyone have a good alarm system for a bike?
    I have only met one person who had an alarm on their bent. Of course, what would you expect from a million dollar recumbent?

    Million dollar recumbent, you say? You must think I'm kidding, right?!?

    WRONG!!!!

    Just do a Google search for Steven K. Roberts, and then tell me I'm wrong!
    The one I'm refering to was Behemoth III, I believe.
    I painted the custom Rock Lobster trailer frame that went with this bike. I think you'll find me referenced in regard to that paint job.

    His alarm was at first an audio track that advised you to dismount from the bike. If you failed to heed that warning, a taser attached to the seat would give you a 50,000 volt reminder that this was NOT your bike!

    Never got to see it in action though, I just took his "word" for it.
    (his common handle is "Wordy", and he is!)
    Great guy and knowledgable beyond belief!
    And I think one article listed his bike as 1.25 million, but in that range, who's counting?

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