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    New tandem bent; need advice

    Jan and I got our new Vision R85 a week ago. It has independent pedaling, underseat steering and a suspension fork. We have ridden it 4 times now are getting better at it. We would appreciate any tips we can get from others who have "been there"! e.g.: Starting from stop, cadence, cornering, speed, hills, hydration systems, communications, mirrors, etc., etc., etc. . . . Thanks!
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    Pics please.

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    Two rules with any tandem

    Rule one, The stoker is always right.
    Rule two, See rule one.

    Starting from stop, With the independent pedaling your stoker can push you off from stops as your clipping in, just remember to down shift. The stoker dose not need to unclip at stops.

    cadence, the best thing I have found is to let the stoker set the cadence, if you spin too fast she will not enjoy riding with you. It may drive you nuts, but slowly over time most stokers will spin faster.

    cornering, Its a long bike, dont forget it. Stokers never forget if you clip a pole or tree... or drop the bike... they never forget

    speed, If the stoker says slower... see rule one.

    hills, Up hill down shift and spin. Down hills (keep in mind rule number one) Tandems on long down hills can build up lots of heat in the rims, so much heat infact that the tires will fail from the heat. If you live in a hilly place you should equip your tandem with a drum brake (about 85 bucks) Gainesville, Florida... no need for one.

    hydration systems, Camelbacks in the seat backs works well.

    communications, Call out everything! Bump! Shift! Braking! The stoker can keeep en eye out for dogs or other hazards.

    mirrors, Every bent should have one, no make that every bike should have one. Set your stoker up with a mirror and she can help keep an eye on trafic behind you. My stoker will call out if she thinks someone is going to buzz us by yelling REDNECK!


    And keep repeating to yourself "The stoker is always right...The stoker is always right...The stoker is always right..." Remember if you piss her off on the bike , it will follow you home
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    Bentbaggerlen, have you ever thought about running for political office?

    My angel and I ride an Angletech Viewpoint, so she sits up front. I always tell her if we ever have an accident, she will be the first on the scene.

    I made a bad mistake early in our tandem riding career. Since our's has independent pedalling, I told her she could "work as hard as she wanted, and I would do the rest." I surmised that due to the fact that we had been married for nearly 30 years and she never paid any attention to what I had to say that she would not hear that statement either. Boy, was I wrong.:confused: Refer to Rule #1

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    Showing my ignorance, but up until a few weeks ago, I didn't know there was any such thing as a recumbent tandem. I was cycling along the NC Outer Banks bike path, and here comes this tandem bent with a middle age couple on it. They were really making good time, so I didn't get a good look at it.
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    Thanks for the replys! Since my post we have added camelbacks, fenders, lights and a rear computer with cadence, for Jan. We have logged about 500 miles on the bike. Last Saturday we rode a century at the Gainesville Cycling Festival with an average speed of 16.0. That included a fair number of hills.
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    do you have any pics of this set-up? sounds intriguing

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    Jan & Carl
    What do you think of the suspension fork on your R85? I have been thinking of replacing the front fork on the Screamer, with a suspension fork or a stiffer (bmx) fork. We use the bike for loaded touring and the fork thats on the Sceamer now seems a little light for that.
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    O.K., I'll get you a photo as soon as I figure out how to do it. We have
    suspension forks on all of our bikes - road bikes, mountain bikes, and now
    on our tandem. I wouldn't be without one. Years ago, after jamming my
    wrists while riding a mountain bike, I installed a rock shock. Later, after
    they came out with the Roubaix Rock Shock for road bikes, we installed them
    on our new Fuji's. When others complain about the rough roads, we just smile! While test riding a tandem recumbent without a suspension
    fork and with above-seat steering, a bump nearly threw me off the seat. Under-
    seat steering has the advantage that you can hold yourself down when
    hitting a bump. However, even with under-seat steering I would not be
    without the suspension fork it is truly a lifesaver!
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    My wife and I have been riding tandem bikes for over 20 years. Three years ago we go a DoubleVision recumbent tandem and we've been very happy with it. Rentbaggerlen hit the nail right on the head... communication is the key.

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