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Old 08-29-08, 09:52 PM   #1
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Hi all,

I ride a Rans V2 recumbent and am looking for a high powered light system for night riding. Does anyone have any experience with the Alerte Trail Blazer II LED Police Bike Light System & Siren, or can you share a particular lighting system you find worthy?

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Old 08-29-08, 10:28 PM   #2
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Hi all,

I ride a Rans V2 recumbent and am looking for a high powered light system for night riding. Does anyone have any experience with the Alerte Trail Blazer II LED Police Bike Light System & Siren, or can you share a particular lighting system you find worthy?
Direct link: http://www.bikemania.biz/ProductDeta...rte_TB_10.3705

Are you a cop? I think that system is intended for police use- you may get arrested for impersonating a police officer if you have flashing blue-and-red lights on your bike.

Where are you going to be riding? What kind of traffic will be around you? This will affect what kind of lighting system you should be looking at.
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You might wish to look into the NighRider brand of lights. For years they were the standard for high quality lighting systems.


Their higher end LED / HID systems out there seem easily as bright as a sportsbike headlight. You might also want to look at Cygolite and Light & Motions offerings. You can easily spend $700+ for the flagship products.
As Jeff was stating above, your needs may be met by a simple $30 light.
You can find enough info on bike lighting systems here to make your eyes bleed: http://nordicgroup.us/s78/

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Hi gerryswo, my wife and I got the Dinotte three pack (the day/night visibility pack I think they called it) - red taillight, amber front light and headlight (www.dinottelighting.com). These lights are simply fantastic - even in bright daylight I can see her from at least a kilometre. Expensive but worth every penny for the visibility.
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I contacted the site that sells the Alerte system and specifically asked if they sold to the general public. I told them I didn't need or want the flashing aspect of their system. They said I could get the lights all white, but that there was no problem buying it.

In terms of the conditions of my night riding. Mostly rural area, not heavily traveled by cars at that time of early morning. I have a faring so I'm looking for something with enough ooomph to display the road fairly far ahead of me.

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Thank you all for your responses. I will look into Donotte and Cygo light. The other option I am looking for in a night light is a remote pushbutton. I hve a fairing, so my light of choice will need to be mounted over the front tire. I would like to be able to turn the light off and on from the handlebars.

Clarenza, does the Dinotte system offer that option?
CraigVM62, the Cygolite?

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The only system I have worked with that has the remote option is the NightRider TriNewt which is wireless "hence the high price". I took a quick look over the Cygolite offerings and did not see anything with a remote or switching options on the battery pack, should it be located within reach. Have you considered having the head helmet mounted. It allows you to illuminate where you plan on going, not just where your bike is pointed at the moment.
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In terms of the conditions of my night riding. Mostly rural area, not heavily traveled by cars at that time of early morning. I have a faring so I'm looking for something with enough ooomph to display the road fairly far ahead of me.

Thank
A word of warning: do not mount the headlight behind the fairing*! The light will reflect off the surface (even if 95% goes through) and ruin your night vision. You'll need your eyes working if you're riding in rural areas. Mount the headlight ahead of the fairing (a Terracycle** mount works well) or off to the side of the fairing.

*Unless you create a light bucket behind the fairing to keep the backscatter out of your eyes.

**The Terracycle folks are friends of mine. That doesn't stop them from making some very nice products.
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Thank you all for your responses. I will look into Donotte and Cygo light. The other option I am looking for in a night light is a remote pushbutton. I hve a fairing, so my light of choice will need to be mounted over the front tire. I would like to be able to turn the light off and on from the handlebars.

Clarenza, does the Dinotte system offer that option?
CraigVM62, the Cygolite?

Thanks

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you might want to look at what this guy did: he created a "power distribution system" on the top tube of his bent, just forward of the seat, it has a switch for the lights. See it here complete with photos (scroll towards the bottom of the page:

http://www.discoveryride.com/bike/mods.html


BTW I'm Clarenza's wife and can add that I love my Dinotte lights!
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Thanks Jeff,,
I have a terracycle bracket mounted above my front tire, hence the need for a remote switch for the light. I contacted the 'Alerte' system people and they tell me they can supply a light with a cord long enough to reach from my front tire to my handlebars ( a distance of about 4 feet)

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Hi Gerry, just saw your question about remote switch on Dinotte lights -- no they don't offer this facility. The switch, which is operated by clicks, double clicks and long clicks (easier than it sounds) is on the back of the light unit, not on the battery unit.
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Did anyone notice the price on that light?

Our Price: $405.99
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Yes, $400+ could purchase a VERY nice lighting system designed to illuminate the road ahead of you. The Alerte System does not look to be designed so much for forward illumination as it is for informing the public it is a police bike. Even if all of the LED's are white and not flashing, I doubt you will get near the illumination that you from a cheaper unit designed to just be a headlight. The specs do not show them to be utilizing any of the new high output LED's or Lensing which quality lighting systems do.
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if you're not going to do a ton of riding, the fenix ld2 is a great choice. Otherwise, if you want the mac daddy of lights, go with the light & motion arc-lion. It'll light up the entire road and 25-50 ft on either side of it, and it's as bright as a motorcycle helmet.
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Great Advise

I have been reading this thread in the "Electronics, Lighting, Gadgets" section of the forum.
The best headlights under $50 thread

I saw many mention utilizing one of the new generation of CREE LED flashlights and universal mounts for a cost effective alternative to Bicycle Lighting Systems. I picked up a rather basic Romisen model and am very impressed. Much more bang for the buck than the typical Light/Battery units that I have seen. I have ordered a few of their nicer units to replace the NightRider Trailrat system I have been using for several years.
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Alerte System

Indeed Craig,'

I tried to get some information from them concerning the Lumens specs for the light, but they chose not to respond. I asked twice.
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I use a Fenix TK11 on a universal mount. On low, it has an output of 60 lumens and run time of 12 hours using one 18650 Li-ion battery. In turbo mode, it outputs 225 lumens with a run time of 2.7 hours using one 18650 Li-ion battery.

I only need the low setting. The spot lights the road nicely and reflectors bounce back visibly a 1/4 mile away. I like the dual use nature of a tactical compact flashlight that doubles as a bike light.

And for $80 I couldn't go wrong.
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I've been experimenting with a lighting setup that is as bright as a Dinotte, but way cheaper. It is based on a Surefire flashlight with a replacement LED bulb that an inventor I work with has just come out with. With this insert, the 60 lumen Surefire flashlight becomes a 240 lumen monster. The batteries also last longer, due to a heat sink that improves efficiency.

This light is brighter than a car light, because I've driven at night in a car, shined the flashlight ahead onto the road, and you can see the spot in the pavement illuminated by the car headlights. It is unbelievably bright. I was camping next to a huge rock outcropping and I lit up the whole rock with this little tiny flashlight. When I drive down the street on my bike in the morning, all the reflective signs bounce light back at me, from at least two blocks away.

Here is the setup on my bike, the Catrike recumbent shown in posts below:



The parts are shown in the picture below, with where to get them listed below the picture. The picture below shows two Surefire flashlight setups. One has a converter, available on ebay for about $8, which allows it to take longer batteries which last longer. The regular batteries last about 1.5 hours, the larger ones about 2-2.5 hours.




The parts of this system are as follows:

Flashlight Setup 1 : Surefire 6P flashlight (about $60) (or SureFire 6Z, C2, M2 and G2 or Cabela's 6 v flashlight ($32); from Surefire, Amazon, ebay or Cabela's.

Malkoff M60 insert: about $50: (replaces the fragile bulb that comes with the flashlight), from Tactical Design Labs (http://www.tdlabs.com/ under Products/The Professional Holster/, or under the "New" menu tab.) They are selling the Malkoff device as an upgrade for police, who use Surefire flashlights extensively. They say "It will easily illuminate objects at 350+ feet and will blind opponents within a 100 foot radius." I believe a Malkoff flashlight will easily do that.

2 CR123 Batteries, AW Brand protected rechargables from Lighthound.com, $7 each

Flashlight Setup 2
: same flashlight and Malkoff insert as above, with

Surefire converter (a tube that makes the body of the flashlight longer), ebay for $8, allows use of the longer 17500 batteries.


2 Batteries, AW Brand-17500-Protected-Rechargeable-Lithium-Battery from Lighthound.com, $11 each.


Fenix 360 Bike Mount, light holder, $15, this is high quality in fit and finish, but rattles. A small rubber band between the top half and bottom half stops the rattle. A no-name brand is also pretty decent, on ebay for $4 shipping, titled:
New Bike/Bicycle LED Flash Light Mount Clamp Holder. These are a little loose on the Surefire, so I put a section of inner tube around the flashlight body, for a tighter fit.

Charger: Ultrafire WF-139 Charger for 3.7 volt Lithium Battery Charger, from Lighthound.com, $18.00 (charges several sizes of batteries)

You can get a remote button switch for a Surefire. I wired my flagpole light for a switch on my steering handgrip.

I hope someone tries this setup and tells me how it works for you.


I also have an Arizona Whip flagpole, with 20 LEDs in the lexan pole, with the LEDs on one side flashing on and off.





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here is what I did on my dinotte setup. the small light is the 200l. I got the long cord version. then the second light is the 600l. the 200l I just put a switch in and used some 9v battery connector ends from radio shack. the 600 I cut into the cord and put the switch inline.



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I knew I was going to be night riding when I was planning my new rig and I also wanted to be as visible as possible during the day so I opted for a Schmidt Dynohub which is built into my front wheel for $500. I also purchased LED head and tail lights with standlights which allow the lights to remain on per a capacitor for about 4 minutes after the wheel stops turning which is excellent in traffic. These lights have an auto function that turns them on when the ambient light drops to a certain level or you have the choice to turn them on all the time (my choice for visibility during the day) and off. The drag from the dynamo is like rising 1m over 100m (OOOOH!) I grew another muscle in my leg to accommodate it! The headlight will reflect of roadsigns brightly 200m away. I was really impressed with the power of the led system. If the headlight is set too high, Cars will flash me as if I have my lights on high beam. In fact I was told by a friend that the bike light was dazzling!
I don't have to worry about batteries. The system is rugged and reliable. I have travelled 3500km with it so far and it is still going strong. This system is German and from the research they are the most efficient dynamo system on the market (maybe I was sucked in by sales pitch) BUt I am very happy so far with it's performance.
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Here's a very bright "Be Seen" type of bikelight.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Ulti...---100-Lumen/I think I'll make it this winter.
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