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    bike e pannier racks

    I am looking for pannier racks for my "new" bike e. any ideas? also I need the chain guard tube that the chain passes through thanks

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    Can't help with the panniers, but I did pick up something from another thread.
    This is a quote from a thread on the

    I use ordinary sprinkler tubing...the black plastic
    pipe that sells for around 5 dollars or so for 50 foot
    coil. Makes many pieces and is MY PRICE CHEAP!!!

    Use a sharp knife to cut it nice and square and then
    while holding the inside of the coil down, hold it
    over a kitchen stove about 4 to 6 inches above a hot
    burner to heat it. I then over bend it slightly in the
    opposite direction from the way it came on the roll
    when it softens up from the heat slightly and play
    with it until it is almost perfectly straight. Main
    thing is to approach the heat source slowly till the
    'sweet spot' is found that has the right temperature
    to soften but not scorch the tubing. I usually have
    cut it about a foot longer than I want, this way I can
    cut off the ends where my fingers tended to over bend
    or mash it or whatever distortion I get near the ends
    from handling. At about 5 - 10 cents a foot, cheap
    insurance against excessive waste.

    Grind down a big enough bolt or other spare piece of
    round metal to a cone on the end and heat is up with a
    burner/torch/stove and keep trying it till it is just
    hot enough to flare the end. You really only have to
    'cone' it down to the inside diameter of the tubing..
    It is a waste of grind stone to make it into a spear
    unless you need a spear for some other reason. Again
    if you over heat it, it will make a mess of the end as
    it is too hot and melts the plastic instead of
    softening it. Make it smooth as possible and kinda
    twist it in to assist the softened plastic to slide.

    FIRST, Cut off short pieces (3-4 inches) and learn the
    fine art of flaring...otherwise you may waste a whole
    roll of tubing and still have bad flares.

    Works for me.

    I believe it softens around 250F to 280F degrees ...
    not sure what exactly, so high heat...such as
    reddening the metal would liquify it real quick since
    that is over 1100F.

    OH, wear good leather gloves with cotton liners. as
    the plastic gets kinda warm. At least leather in palms
    and finger grip side. Can be those cheapie gray cotton
    knuckle side half leather gloves that all hardware
    store sell. I like to wear a jersey glove inside if
    possilbe when dealing with heat so I have time to exit
    gloves if I get the leather toooooo hot.

    This is from an 'experienced' chain tuber that wasted
    about 20 feet the first time. Only sucessfully made
    four that I needed for the Rhoades car.
    Greenspeed GTO 1027

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