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PaPa 07-05-09 09:13 PM

Wal-Mart recumbent now in stock 7-5-2009
 
... as of July 5. (Actual weight reported is 42-44 pounds)

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10983235
http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/68...96_500X500.jpghttp://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/68...AV_500X500.jpg
http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/68...V1_500X500.jpg
http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/68...V2_500X500.jpg



Disclaimer; I am NOT affiliated with Wal-Mart.

Floyd 07-06-09 07:33 AM

If the price gets people to try the comfortable ride, more power to them. The weight is not that much different than other 'cheapie' bikes.

madhouse 07-06-09 10:54 AM

I have the aluminum Sun EZ-rider that looks a lot like this bike. It weighs 41#.

Looks like a great bike to get hook on bents with. I know mine worked for me!

Arturooui 07-09-09 10:26 AM

Question about rider size
 
Has anyone determined what size rider this bike will fit? I am thinking of this for my wife but I'm afraid that it will be too big for her. She's about 5ft. 6in.

PaPa 07-09-09 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arturooui (Post 9247090)
Has anyone determined what size rider this bike will fit? I am thinking of this for my wife but I'm afraid that it will be too big for her. She's about 5ft. 6in.

I've not seen the Wally 'bent in the flesh, but judging from the images, the only possible 'fit' issue I see, is that the seat may be a little too high for shorter riders. Typically, riders below about 5' 6" would be better suited to seat heights of approximately 20" (dining room chair height).

If my shop wasn't filled with frame building equipment, and/or I lacked frame building experience, I'd buy the Wally 'bent in a heart-beat, just for the bare frame. I'd strip off the cheap components and fit it with decent tires. Fact is, I'd be hard pressed to build a quality (bare and unpainted) frame for less than $275. I suspect that's why Randy Schlittler (Owner and designer of RANS recumbents) opted to purchase one, AND upgrade it.

edwong3 07-14-09 06:18 AM

Price Drop!
 
I was on Walmart's website this morning, and noticed that the Hyper Insight's price has been lowered to $259. This has got to be the most affordable price ever on a brand new recumbent bicycle!

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10983235

Edward Wong III

Dchiefransom 07-14-09 09:07 AM

Which of the two chain lines shown in the pictures is correct?

PaPa 07-14-09 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dchiefransom (Post 9277103)
Which of the two chain lines shown in the pictures is correct?

The upper photo I believe is correct.

The drive side (upper) chain should be below the red idler so that the chain line is closer to the rear swing arm's pivot axis (to inhibit pogo-ing). Although there appears to be provisions for a return side (lower) chain guide, the design probably doesn't need one.

Dchiefransom 07-14-09 10:19 AM

According to the reviews at Wal-Mart, it looks like this is really a $400-500 bike. Replacing cassettes, brake levers, shifters, cables, and derailers to make a bike work properly is not normal, unless it's normal for Wal-Mart.

BlazingPedals 07-14-09 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dchiefransom (Post 9277103)
Which of the two chain lines shown in the pictures is correct?

I believe the chainline should be straight on the top and the idler should go to the return (lower) side. Although I don't see why an idler should be necessary at all. Maybe because there's too much weight of chain for the derailleur to keep proper tension?

edwong3 07-14-09 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dchiefransom (Post 9277597)
According to the reviews at Wal-Mart, it looks like this is really a $400-500 bike. Replacing cassettes, brake levers, shifters, cables, and derailers to make a bike work properly is not normal, unless it's normal for Wal-Mart.

Much of the upgrades done on these bikes are more "elective" than due to any perceived non functionality of the components. Most enthusiasts can't stand to see their new bikes equipped with low end parts, and replace them right away. I look at it this way. If the shifters, the derailleurs, and the brakes do what they're supposed to do, why replace them immediately? I'll do so when they start to malfunction or break.

Edward Wong III
Orlando, FL

Dchiefransom 07-14-09 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edwong3 (Post 9278256)
Much of the upgrades done on these bikes are more "elective" than due to any perceived non functionality of the components. Most enthusiasts can't stand to see their new bikes equipped with low end parts, and replace them right away. I look at it this way. If the shifters, the derailleurs, and the brakes do what they're supposed to do, why replace them immediately? I'll do so when they start to malfunction or break.

Edward Wong III
Orlando, FL

Shifting problems are not an elective repair.

Onus 07-14-09 02:59 PM

I would think it would have to do with the odds and severity of a catastrophic failure. An analog from the world of PCs would be the PSU. Cheap ones tend to eventually destroy other components, which is why there's an Antec Signature in mine :-).

PaPa 07-14-09 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlazingPedals (Post 9278034)
I believe the chainline should be straight on the top

This would apply if the 'bent had no rear suspension - The Wally 'bent does. Therefore, to reduce pogoing, the drive side chainline needs to be as close to the swing arm pivot axis as possible - hence, the need for the drive side of the chain to be positioned on the bottom of the red idler.

The Wally 'bent pictured below, is the 'bent Randy Schlitter purchased (owner of RANS bikes) - notice the chain.

http://www.ransbikes.com/itr78/WalMart%20064.jpg

PaPa 07-14-09 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edwong3 (Post 9278256)
Most enthusiasts can't stand to see their new bikes equipped with low end parts, and replace them right away.

I have about 30-40 parts/donor bikes at my disposal. Most are garage sale or second hand store finds of 7-speed LX or better. Needless to say, I can upgrade for the cost of one used mountain bike. In my area, that's about $20. The only other optional expense, is $40, 100 psi tires and perhaps a few feet of quality control cables.

edwong3 07-14-09 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dchiefransom (Post 9278885)
Shifting problems are not an elective repair.

Only one of the Hyper Insight owners reported that the bike wouldn't shift reliably at all for him. That was the 61 year old gentleman whose review was titled, "Please charge $50 More" on Walmart's site. He had also posted his findings in BROL, and found out that the factory had apparently installed brake cable housings for the shifter cables by mistake and that caused extra friction that hindered the shifting function. Others reported less than crisp, precise shifting, but that's to be expected with such long cable runs using low end equipment. Non the less, the components still worked on their bikes.

Edward Wong III
Orlando, FL

edwong3 07-14-09 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaPa (Post 9279961)
I have about 30-40 parts/donor bikes at my disposal. Most are garage sale or second hand store finds of 7-speed LX or better. Needless to say, I can upgrade for the cost of one used mountain bike. In my area, that's about $20. The only other optional expense, is $40, 100 psi tires and perhaps a few feet of quality control cables.

That's the way to do it! Have you ordered one of these recumbents from Walmart yet?

Edward Wong III
Orlando, FL

PaPa 07-14-09 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edwong3 (Post 9281049)
That's the way to do it! Have you ordered one of these recumbents from Walmart yet?

'Tis not in the budget right now. The only reason I'd consider springing for one, is to do an extensive write-up, then sell it. I'm far too busy for such foolery. Besides, I feel much better carving my own frames:

http://i28.tinypic.com/2rpv2ty.jpg

Dchiefransom 07-14-09 10:05 PM

That's a nice looking trike. Looks light, too.

edwong3 07-14-09 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaPa (Post 9281442)
'Tis not in the budget right now. The only reason I'd consider springing for one, is to do an extensive write-up, then sell it. I'm far too busy for such foolery. Besides, I feel much better carving my own frames:

http://i28.tinypic.com/2rpv2ty.jpg

Nice trike! With your talent, who needs Walmart, or any recumbent maker for that matter:)

Edward Wong III
Orlando, FL

PaPa 07-14-09 11:13 PM

Thanks guys.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dchiefransom (Post 9282195)
Looks light, too.

19 kg. http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...52#post9282452

Roll-Monroe-Co 07-16-09 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edwong3 (Post 9282439)
Nice trike! With your talent, who needs Walmart, or any recumbent maker for that matter:)

Edward Wong III
Orlando, FL

Show 'em your "beater," PaPa.

PaPa 07-16-09 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roll-Monroe-Co (Post 9296263)
Show 'em your "beater," PaPa.

This one?... http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...51#post9296751

Roll-Monroe-Co 07-17-09 06:43 PM

Yes, that one. "Beater." :roflmao2:

no1mad 07-21-09 08:18 PM

What I would like to know is would this make a decent 'gateway' into the recumbent world? I know some would derail this simply because of where it's distributed through.


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