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Old 01-27-05, 12:31 AM   #1
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Newbie question for Challenge bike owners

Hello,
i live in Israel, and i am new to recumbent bikes.
the only recumbent shop avaialable is that of a Challenge bikes importer.
since public demand for recumbent bikes is negligible here, the importer does not have all Challenge models. since i do not want to spent extra money (over the retail price) on custum fee, i will be buying my bike from the Challenge bike importer.
i know that buying without testing is not recommended but i do want to read your comments. according to the following profile, which model of challenge recumbent do you recommend ?

my height - 170cm (~5'7")
main usage of the bike - commuting (~20km a day) through heavy traffic and road shoulders.

i was considering Challenge Wizard and Challenge Seiran (will it require a ballerina raising of one foot when starting to cycle?), becuse their seat height should allow eye contact with motorists, will other models do as well?

Thank you, yonatan.
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Old 02-06-05, 02:20 PM   #2
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Hello,
i live in Israel, and i am new to recumbent bikes.
the only recumbent shop avaialable is that of a Challenge bikes importer.
since public demand for recumbent bikes is negligible here, the importer does not have all Challenge models. since i do not want to spent extra money (over the retail price) on custum fee, i will be buying my bike from the Challenge bike importer.
i know that buying without testing is not recommended but i do want to read your comments. according to the following profile, which model of challenge recumbent do you recommend ?

my height - 170cm (~5'7")
main usage of the bike - commuting (~20km a day) through heavy traffic and road shoulders.

i was considering Challenge Wizard and Challenge Seiran (will it require a ballerina raising of one foot when starting to cycle?), becuse their seat height should allow eye contact with motorists, will other models do as well?

Thank you, yonatan.
I think you should choose the Seiran as it is the most appropriate in urban environments. Choose the under-seat-steering version as it is more stable and more easy to learn. You certanly don't have to be a "ballerina" in order to ride a recumbent. Start your first acquaintance with your recumbent lying down on the seat in a relaxed mood. Then try to lift your right foot if you are righthanded and take a support with the other foot. (N.B. use the brakes when you are standing still!! )This should be done in a complete relaxed mood. Lift your left foot and put it on the pedal and take support with the right one. When you decide to go forward make sure you are completely relaxed and focused to go forward. Trust your bike, because it is the bike that will keep you in balance if you do it right. The more you can accelerate the more stable the bike becomes and if you are still relaxed you will succeed in your first trial and discover that it isn't you that keep you and the bike in balance but the bike that keeps you in balance owing to the gyrodynamic force that you develop while accelerating. Finally you should be in a low gear before you stop. Otherwise you won't be able to start again especially if you are a beginner. Practise starts and stops in a row until you know the routine without thinking. The turns is a chapter of its own but it is much easier to learn. Do not ride your recumbent in intense traffic until after at least a month of daily practice. I wish you good luck!
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Old 02-06-05, 09:09 PM   #3
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Riding in traffic especially stop/start is not something you want to start doing til
you have a few hundred kilometers experience on the bike. Starting bents is different
enough that you need lots of practice and get in the habit of downgearing automatically when you stop. If you stop on an upgrade in too high a gear and in
traffic you will never get going and getting off the machine to manually change
gears is harder on a bent than DF, especially ones like the Challenge models. Use BMX or platform pedals to start with as clipping in adds too much distraction to everything else. Bents wobble back and
forth a lot more than DF bikes do-you will look like a 6yr just out of training wheels
initially on the bent, after 3-400km this will be much better. 62cm seat height
on the Seiran might be a bit of stretch for you. I have sat on a ridden briefly a
Baccheta Aero that has about the same seat height and you learn to sit up
at a stop to reach the ground. Sitting up is easier with above seat steering than
below seat as you don't scoot forward in front of the bars, so that would be a consideration. The 52 cm seat height of the Wizard would be friendlier. Steve
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Steve, SHALOM!
combining Erik Forsgren, Paul from Challenge bike headquarters, and your opinion, i decided to buy the Seiran with OSS. the bike should be on its way as i write. thank you for your advice. i am looking forward to my 1st fall from the new bike.
Thank you, yonatan (Tel-Aviv, Israel) .
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