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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimi77 View Post
    I'm not going to spend ~$2k on a trike to be limited to only bike paths.
    We have these things called "roads" where I live. They are awesome. They go all over the place. And not once do you need to go over a curb to ride on them.

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    It's been a while since I tried climbing a curb on a trike. The trick is to use your hands wheelchair style (wear gloves) to assist the front wheels up and over. Do it at an angle, one wheel at a time.

    The maximum curb height you can clear depends on the tires and wheel size.

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    Almost all curbs these days are ADA-compliant,with ramps at crosswalks. If you ride sidewalks, tadpoles will take the ramps as well as wheelchairs. The only other reason I can think of to go up/down curbs if the rider in question suffers from the 'neither fish nor fowl' syndrome. That is, they will ride on the sidewalk, identifying themselves as a pedestrian, until such time as it becomes more convenient to jump into the road and 'become' a vehicle. Then when they encounter backed-up traffic, they expect to jump back on the sidewalk and 'become' a pedestrian again. As a result, nobody near them knows what they're going to do next, which violates the second law of safety, which is to be predictable. (The first law being to be visible.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamer View Post
    We have these things called "roads" where I live. They are awesome. They go all over the place. And not once do you need to go over a curb to ride on them.
    We have those crazy roads where I live too. Unfortunately, they're full of these things called (bad) "drivers." These so-called "drivers" are often texting, making and taking phone calls, just plain ole bad drivers, smoking a joint, not paying attention, treating the roads like the Indianapolis Speedway, etc, etc, etc. Not to mention the ones who "buzz" the bikers for kicks. TBH, I'm paranoid enough on the roads in my car or SUV and I would avoid roads at all costs on my DF, so there is no way in heck I'm riding the road on a trike. A neighbor of mine actually got creamed on his Lemond bike, jacking up his shoulder and destroying an irreplaceable bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazingPedals View Post
    Almost all curbs these days are ADA-compliant,with ramps at crosswalks. If you ride sidewalks, tadpoles will take the ramps as well as wheelchairs. The only other reason I can think of to go up/down curbs if the rider in question suffers from the 'neither fish nor fowl' syndrome. That is, they will ride on the sidewalk, identifying themselves as a pedestrian, until such time as it becomes more convenient to jump into the road and 'become' a vehicle. Then when they encounter backed-up traffic, they expect to jump back on the sidewalk and 'become' a pedestrian again. As a result, nobody near them knows what they're going to do next, which violates the second law of safety, which is to be predictable. (The first law being to be visible.)
    In my case, I'll stay on the sidewalks as long as possible even though I know there are curbs ahead that might make it inconvenient for me. The roads are dangerous place IMHO (see above). Probably a bit of paranoid holdover from my early 20s when I saw a dozen or so friends taken out by drivers who didn't see their motorcycles and forced them off the road or turned in front of them. Yeah, I won't get on a motorcycle either.

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    If you're going to ride on sidewalks, why do you want a trike? Something wide, low, and curb-challenged seems a poor choice for co-existing with pedestrians and cars pulling in/out of driveways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyl View Post
    If you're going to ride on sidewalks, why do you want a trike? Something wide, low, and curb-challenged seems a poor choice for co-existing with pedestrians and cars pulling in/out of driveways.
    Explained in post #9, which I've also quoted.

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    There are areas along my travels that don't have an inclined ramp. It's either hop the curb or take a different route. Obviously this hasn't been a problem on my DF, but my DF is starting to become a problem for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    Explained in post #9, which I've also quoted.
    Specifically, upper back issues from years of abuse.

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    OP, out of curiosity, what is your typical speed while riding a bike and how aggressively do you change direction? I ask because if you are having back issues, perhaps a delta might be a better 'fit'.

    Totally off the wall idea: explore RANS Crank Forwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    OP, out of curiosity, what is your typical speed while riding a bike and how aggressively do you change direction? I ask because if you are having back issues, perhaps a delta might be a better 'fit'.

    Totally off the wall idea: explore RANS Crank Forwards.
    I don't use a computer, so I'm guessing around 10mph. I wouldn't say I "aggressively" change directions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimi77 View Post
    Wow, this thread is making me feel like I live in an alternate reality. Am I the only person who encounters curbs during their pedal powered travels? Are curbs not common place in other parts of the country? Am the only one who has climbed curbs with road bikes, BMX bikes, etc? I'm not going to spend ~$2k on a trike to be limited to only bike paths.

    I don't see a Steintrike or ICE Adventure fitting into my budget. Nevertheless, it looks like a TT Rambler with IGH should be able to clear curbs.
    I think you have that alternative reality thing about right. Many of us do not ride on sidewalks making curbs pretty much a non-issue.
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    Here they are called 'pram ramps' and usually only found at each end of a path hence the need to exit via a kerb sometimes. The answer for the OP might be to look at the trike's tyres. My Greenspeed trike would bottom out when riding off a kerb unless I had the trike angled right and had an appropriate escape velocity. That was with Comp Pool tyres, Conti Grand Prix and the like; then I put on some Maxxis Hookworms and it felt like I was a couple of inches higher. Not the greatest tyres for hard cornering but great for city cycling. If you can handle balloon tyres there are a few out there.
    Last edited by just4tehhalibut; 04-01-13 at 10:43 AM. Reason: Colour me kerbed, I momentarily fell for your trap and typed them curbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by just4tehhalibut View Post
    Here they are called 'pram ramps' and usually only found at each end of a path hence the need to exit via a kerb sometimes. The answer for the OP might be to look at the trike's tyres. My Greenspeed trike would bottom out when riding off a kerb unless I had the trike angled right and had an appropriate escape velocity. That was with Comp Pool tyres, Conti Grand Prix and the like; then I put on some Maxxis Hookworms and it felt like I was a couple of inches higher. Not the greatest tyres for hard cornering but great for city cycling. If you can handle balloon tyres there are a few out there.
    Thanks, I hadn't even considered the tires could help with clearance.

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    hi i have the terratrike rover 20's all around, i have no problem with curbs, but then again i have to 8 speed internal hub,

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonegunman88240 View Post
    hi i have the terratrike rover 20's all around, i have no problem with curbs, but then again i have to 8 speed internal hub,
    I was thinking IGH would help.

    I guess I'm not the only person who encounters curbs.
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    At least for going UP curbs, I would think the main issue would be the small front wheels. Hitting a 6" curb with a 20" front wheel would be almost like hitting a wall. And with no capability to 'hop' the wheel over the curb, it'd be tough on the bike AND the rider.

    Or have I got it all wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazingPedals View Post
    At least for going UP curbs, I would think the main issue would be the small front wheels. Hitting a 6" curb with a 20" front wheel would be almost like hitting a wall. And with no capability to 'hop' the wheel over the curb, it'd be tough on the bike AND the rider.

    Or have I got it all wrong?
    You don't slam into the curb at speed. You crawl over it slowly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimi77 View Post
    You don't slam into the curb at speed. You crawl over it slowly.
    Have you actually done this? For purposes of climbing a curb, the derailleur issues are a red herring because the derailleur can't hit the curb unless you collapse the wheel. Hitting the frame, pedals, or chainring would be my concern. It seems to me that the best way to crawl over it slowly would be to dismount first. That way you avoid pedal strike and you don't have to power a small wheel over a tall obstacle.

    If you or someone else here has done it, then GREAT my concerns are baseless. But weren't you the one asking IF it could be done?

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    I too seldom have to worry about riding either up or down curbs. Almost all the sidewalks and bike paths in Lincoln have handicap ramps.

    Also as I mentioned before if really necessary ride up or down curbs ride really slow at a 90 degree angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimi77 View Post
    I'm strongly considering making the move to recumbent biking. Will Tadpoles clear a curb? In the pics it looks like the chain might scrape as you climb the curb, especially with Tadpoles with 20" rear wheels. Can anybody confirm or deny this. In particular the TT Rambler and Sportster have caught my eye. The ICE Adventure looks nice, but that's really stretching my budget.

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    I ride the Catrike road, you can see me four to six times a week heading up the strip from downtown to the south strip outlet mall to work. My first question would be why are you going over curbs in the first place? As to will they clear a curb? NO... well no curb over two inchs and even that is a big if. In the 12 years that I have been riding trike recumbents just short of being run off the road and having to hit the curb so as not to be run over, I don't find a need to be jumping curbs.

    Just another thought,as I went back and looked through the other replies, it looks like most of you or some of you are talking bout riding your trikes/bikes on the sidewalks, which in most states is against the law/road rules. Now granted it is a law that is seldom if ever inforces, being that I live and ride here in las vegas nv, you are better off on the road. not to mention they take a dim view of you running over tourist, not that,that isn't fun, but they frown on it none the less.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclingfilmguy View Post
    I ride the Catrike road, you can see me four to six times a week heading up the strip from downtown to the south strip outlet mall to work. My first question would be why are you going over curbs in the first place? As to will they clear a curb? NO... well no curb over two inchs and even that is a big if. In the 12 years that I have been riding trike recumbents just short of being run off the road and having to hit the curb so as not to be run over, I don't find a need to be jumping curbs.

    Just another thought,as I went back and looked through the other replies, it looks like most of you or some of you are talking bout riding your trikes/bikes on the sidewalks, which in most states is against the law/road rules. Now granted it is a law that is seldom if ever inforces, being that I live and ride here in las vegas nv, you are better off on the road. not to mention they take a dim view of you running over tourist, not that,that isn't fun, but they frown on it none the less.)

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    Colorado/Denver it's kinda pick and choose - not sure what the actual law is. I don't really care, personally I view the streets as a dangerous place to be, so I'm not going to chance the roads in anything less than a car. I encounter texting drivers. I remember almost being run off the road once by a woman combing her hair while (not) driving. Nearly got hit at Home Depot not too long ago by a couple plumbers who got distracted by their marijuana pipe. I don't even drive much, but it seems every time I do drive I encounter a dangerous driver.

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    Has any trike rider in this thread actually said that he or she regularly rides the trike UP on to the curb - i.e. from street up onto sidewalk - ? I think everyone so far has said either that they don't do curbs at all, or they can ride the trike DOWN off of the curb. OP seems to need assurance that he'll be able to ride his future trike both DOWN off curbs and UP on to curbs, and the latter is what has me both curious, and doubtful.
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    I tried climbing a curb with my wife's TT path and got stuck, coming down was fine. I find there are occasions when I have curb hop on any of my bikes as well...good luck with the search

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyl View Post
    OP seems to need assurance that he'll be able to ride his future trike both DOWN off curbs and UP on to curbs, and the latter is what has me both curious, and doubtful.
    Just put it in reverse and back up over the curb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimi77 View Post
    That's one way to get over a curb. Another is to just ride over the curb slowly, no shifting your weight back and forth. You don't need to "jump" off a curb, you can just roll off it.

    2:15 of this video this guy manages a curb, looks like you just need to take it easy does it.

    http://www.utahtrikes.com/playvideo-67.html
    The point is that most bents are not made to go up and down curbs. And that's why most people find it hard to understand why you want to do it. And even if I just ride up a curb( not jump), I still need to shift my weight. And you can't do that in a reclined position.
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