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    Quote Originally Posted by toybox
    Uummm....you didn't. You mentioned nerdy Honda Goldwings and......whatever, it is not worth explaining if you didn't get the obvious point.
    No, I understand you crystal clear logic. I understand that if one thinks Gold Wing riders are nerdy that it necessarily follows that one thinks that Harley riders are cool. Yeah, that's right - concise, clear, not unexpected logic. ROTFLMFAO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skydive69
    ROTFLMFAO!
    Did someone say something funny????? Or are you laughing at yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toybox
    Did someone say something funny????? Or are you laughing at yourself.
    Okay *******, it's just that you are too funny. Having said that, let me extract myself from the world of the ******** and delete this thread subscription. Bye clown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skydive69
    Okay *******, it's just that you are too funny. Having said that, let me extract myself from the world of the ******** and delete this thread subscription. Bye clown.


    Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! Now THAT was funny!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahah! SEEYA

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    Bravo!!! We got "Buba" to go back to his cave!
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    skydive69 I don't belive "you" mentioned Harleys. erik forsgren did in post #6.

    erik asked: "How about tatoos Harley Davidson and the like? Do you consider those things to be nerdy too?"

    Erik: I have tattoo's from my neck to my ankles and rode Harley's starting with the old Pan Heads (remember when ya jumped on the crank for hours to get it started-probably not). No those were not NERDY but dude, many of the folks riding Harleys now a days are. In my opinion their "Yuppy/Nerds" who can't even change the oil or adjust the mirror. "But" they are Happy/Free & have the right to ride what they like, when they like, without ridicule & with the wind blown in their hair.

    In the context of your question, the people who have (complementary Harley Tats) & the Harleys (with Electric starters, belt drives etc. made today) by comparison are IMO NERDY/YUPPY people on NERDY/YUPPY Motorcycles, that "don't break down as much as mine did and are faster". If they are Happy/Free they should enjoy the right to ride what they like, when they like,without ridicule & with the wind blowing in their hair What's the problem?

    Same with DF or Bents. You ride your "whatever" with your funny pants I"ll ride my bent
    ( Tats Out) & we'll get a beer

    Enjoy Life Erik

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    Damn did Erik * skydive69 both split? I type to slow

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    Quote Originally Posted by erik forsgren
    ... I have a strong feeling that looks is the most important factor when it comes to attracting buyers. If a bike looks nerdy or goofy the eventual buyer will not even try it ...
    I think that is right. Design is incredibly important to people. But its a right-brain thing. The left brain can struggle to explain the negative response the right brain is having. If we can design our way through that goofyness the response might be different.

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    It's called PAIN. I herniated a disk in my lower back a few years ago, plus I'm a saxophonist and a writer. These things combined make it painful for me to ride an upright for any length of time.

    It's not about preference. It's about suitability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by funbun
    It's called PAIN. I herniated a disk in my lower back a few years ago, plus I'm a saxophnist and a writer. These things combined make it painful for me to ride an upright for any length of time.
    It's not about preference. It's about suitability.
    I'm a saxophonist too, and it's painful for upright AND recumbent riders to listen to me play for any length of time.
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    From what I've seen, DFers have negative emotional responses to bents for a couple of reasons. One is the small front wheel that most have. Small wheels are for kids' bikes, and besides a proper bike should have two equal-sized wheels! The big-wheel bents are making inroads in that respect. Another is the image of FOGs with white beards riding them. Nobody riding uprights revels in trying to look like Santa Claus, and those among us who do are not doing the group any favors. As we see more performance-oriented sport riders coming into the fold, the FOG aspect will become less important. For now, sykdive69 sees lots of nerds riding bents and doesn't want to be associated with them. Shallow, high school-level thinking processes, but that's all he's got, so...

    One big item that I'm afraid will always be an issue is body language. Simply put, tall is superior and low is inferior. Commoner bows to royalty lest he accidently attain a higher, threatening position. Dog cowers before his enraged master. Bird has strategic advantage over your car's windshield, etc. This factor is subconscious, primal. Uprights have the advantage here, although few recognize why. It's strictly a left-brain thing. Logic doesn't work against emotional responses, as skydive69 illustrated.

    What's the moral? Nuttin'. Just go out and ride. But if you get a chance to upset someone's worldview, go for it!

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    Well put, Blazingpedals.
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    Ja!!
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    BlazingPedals
    "Another is the image of FOGs" (Guess that means old foggies- hadn't heard that one ......with white beards riding them. Nobody riding uprights revels in trying to look like Santa Claus, and those among us who do are not doing the group any favors."

    Well I guess if a FOG is an older male with a white beard who rides a bent you nailed me, but I sure as hell don't "revel in trying to look like Santa Claus" and I don't have a white beard to "hurt the image of bent riders or do them favors. I've had a beard for almost 25 years, because I like it and it's white because I'm 57yrs old. Now we've gone from bents vs DFs to white beards verse clean shaven. Come on.
    I have a beard because I like it, I ride a bent because I like it and because I broke my back in 3 places. So what? I ride!!


    Hopefully I've upset your world view a little.

    Blazing: You also said a few interesting things that could be taken another way: "Simply put, tall is superior and low is inferior."........Uprights have the advantage here,"....

    Small is inferior & in this context Uprights have the advantage, except if your at the level of the vital organs you can recumbent, whoops I meant render them useless.

    Blazing: "Dog cowers before his enraged master."

    Ever been bitten by a dog

    Blazing:What's the moral? Nuttin'. Just go out and ride. But if you get a chance to upset someone's worldview, go for it!

    [I]Strixowl: to Quote Blazing "What's the moral? Nuttin'. Just go out and ride. But if you get a chance to [/I] upset someone's worldview, go for it!"

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    Silly silly silly.

    I love being a nerd. It's where it's at, baby. The richest man in the US is a nerd.

    But even though I'm a nerd, I'm also a natural blonde California girl. I don't look like Santa at all. But I've got my own Santa at home

    I don't have a Harley, but I do have a Vespa. Harley guys ride up to me and compliment my Vespa. They give me the wave. See, I might be a nerd, but I'm cool, too.

    I think recumbents are cool. The Optima Baron has to be the coolest looking thing I've seen. My recumbent is relatively geeky, but what is cool is that I bought it in person from the engineer who designed it himself. I've seen some uprights that look extremely cool lately, too.

    Silly silly silly. It's not what you have or what you ride or what you play golf with. It's how much joy you can squeeze out of this short short life. I've found recumbent riders to be the type of people who squeeze a lot of joy out of life.
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    sbhikes Now that's well said oh wonderful nerdy California girl

    Continue to squeeze as much joy out of this short, short life that you can. I've also found recumbent riders to be the type of people who squeeeeeeeze a lot of joy out of this thing called life

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes
    Silly silly silly.

    I love being a nerd. It's where it's at, baby. The richest man in the US is a nerd.

    But even though I'm a nerd, I'm also a natural blonde California girl. I don't look like Santa at all. But I've got my own Santa at home

    I don't have a Harley, but I do have a Vespa. Harley guys ride up to me and compliment my Vespa. They give me the wave. See, I might be a nerd, but I'm cool, too.

    I think recumbents are cool. The Optima Baron has to be the coolest looking thing I've seen. My recumbent is relatively geeky, but what is cool is that I bought it in person from the engineer who designed it himself. I've seen some uprights that look extremely cool lately, too.

    Silly silly silly. It's not what you have or what you ride or what you play golf with. It's how much joy you can squeeze out of this short short life. I've found recumbent riders to be the type of people who squeeze a lot of joy out of life.
    I think you have made a very good resume of the thoughts and opinions of this thread. Besides I think you are absolutely right when you point out what is essential in life: squeese out as much as you can of this short life and enjoy what you ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strixowl
    California girl...continue to squeeze as much joy out of this short, short life that you can. I've also found recumbent riders to be the type of people who squeeeeeeeze a lot of joy out of this thing called life
    Aw, you guys are gettin' too mushy now. Ready? 1-2-3 >>> GROUP S-Q-U-E-E-Z-E!
    I'll gently rise and I'll softly call
    Good night and joy be with you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strixowl
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    "Another is the image of FOGs" (Guess that means old foggies- hadn't heard that one ......with white beards riding them. Nobody riding uprights revels in trying to look like Santa Claus, and those among us who do are not doing the group any favors."

    Well I guess if a FOG is an older male with a white beard who rides a bent you nailed me, but I sure as hell don't "revel in trying to look like Santa Claus" and I don't have a white beard to "hurt the image of bent riders or do them favors. I've had a beard for almost 25 years, because I like it and it's white because I'm 57yrs old. Now we've gone from bents vs DFs to white beards verse clean shaven. Come on.
    I have a beard because I like it, I ride a bent because I like it and because I broke my back in 3 places. So what? I ride!!
    FOG stands for 'Fat Old Guy.' And what I meant by that was that every time a DFer sees a white-bearded FOG, the stereotype is reinforced. Guilt by association being what it is, it's assumed that bents are primarily designed for just that audience; and they don't want to be connected with the image of a feeble old man, barely able to garner enough speed to wobble down the bike path. I'm not saying the stereotype is fair, but that's how they see us. And yes, I realize I'm using stereotypes by lumping the DFers that way. Like all stereotypes, it may be based on a pattern but it isn't always accurate (as we already know.)

    Personally, I like to use the stereotype to my advantage. It absolutely dumbfounds some of them when I do something they know a recumbent can't do.

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    Hey Blazing!! Hope you realize it was all friendly jesting

    Except the Santa Claus part
    Later My Friend

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    No offense taken, and I hope I didn't give any. I'd be happy to ride with you any time, beard or not!

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