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    Actionbent High Racer Opinions

    I'm thinking about buying my first road bike. I will mostly use it to commute 15 miles each way to work on rural highways. Area is mostly flat with some rolling hills. I am leaning toward DF bikes, but I keep coming back to recumbents. I figure if I can go faster, and feel better then why not get bent. Not many shops in Kalamazoo, MI carry bents, so I am thinking about buying from the internet. Has anyone ridden Actionbent's High Racer? The specs look pretty good and it is several hundred dollars less than the Bacchetta Strada, Giro 26 or Volae Sport. Any thoughts or experiences would be much appreciated.

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    I don't know if any of those have actually been delivered. You can check at the Actionbent board:

    http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group...nbent/messages

    Note that although packing has apparently improved, assembly of these bikes does require a good bit of mechanical skill. You may need to refer to pictures on the above site to complete assembly.

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    Scott,
    Never rode the actionbent, but do own a Strada and it's a dream. My biggest concern (question) with actionbent is how than can build a recumbent so cheap, with duel disk and all I feel something somewhere is lacking, and then have too put the thing together I wonder about that, be careful you could be buying a problem child.

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    I have a jet stream. Had it since last summer and right now it is in the quest room on a trainer. There is 6 inches of snow on the ground as we speak and still falling, so I'm still house bound. But I really like the Actionbent. If you have questions about why it is less expensive go to the Actionbent site. Randy is very agreeable and honest. They are not all that fancy at the entry but the construction seems quite good and the components are brand products. If you are not sure, Idon't see how you can go wrong at that price. You can always sell and buy up. I ride on the average of 20 miles at a pop and have a host of ailements that make wedgie riding impossible.

    I'm more than happy to discuse my "ride" if you have futher questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ric
    Scott,
    Never rode the actionbent, but do own a Strada and it's a dream. My biggest concern (question) with actionbent is how than can build a recumbent so cheap, with duel disk and all I feel something somewhere is lacking, and then have too put the thing together I wonder about that, be careful you could be buying a problem child.

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    I'm not a 'bent rider yet, but I've been looking at either the Road Rocket or Jet Stream. Actionbent sells their bikes at the manufacturers regular cost, so there is no dealer markup. I think we'd find that the same parts on a Giant or maybe Specialized MTB style bike would cost about the same. Thre ddoesn't seem to be anything fancy about the Jetstream, it's not fancy, but I think it would be a workhorse for me.
    If we can supposedly follow the insructions and put the bike together, any LBS should be able to. Mine said "NO Problem".
    To help with a future decision of mine, could you longer term 'bent riders venture an opinion on whether it would be "safe" to get the Road Rocket with the 451X25 front tire? Would there be a risk of that tire being hard to find in the future?

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    Don' get me wrong, If you want an Actionbent go for it. My biggest concern (question) with actionbent is how than can build a recumbent so cheap, with duel disk and all, I feel somewhere they have to be cutting corners. I know how much disks brakes run and the American classic hubs aren't cheep either. then add the rest of the component group together and the cost doesn't match up. So then I have to ask myself where are they cutting corners, then I have too put the thing together or pay a LBS to do it for me,and I haven't even rode the bike to know if I like it ( whats wrong with this picture ? ) Go to a LBS and ride a few different Recumbents before you order,that's the best thing you can do. I say again you could be buying a problem child. Wish you all good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dchiefransom
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    If we can supposedly follow the insructions and put the bike together, any LBS should be able to. Mine said "NO Problem".
    To help with a future decision of mine, could you longer term 'bent riders venture an opinion on whether it would be "safe" to get the Road Rocket with the 451X25 front tire? Would there be a risk of that tire being hard to find in the future?
    Note that there apparently isn't much by way of useful instructions with the bike. It sounds like most people rely on info and pictures from the Yahoo group website. Unless your LBS is experienced with recumbents, just because they say, "no problem" doesn't mean there won't be any.

    A lot of people enjoy working on their own bike, have a good work area with a lot of tools, and have extra parts around to use for upgrades. For these people, the Actionbent may very well be a good entry point into the recumbent world.

    OTOH paying someone to do the assembly will add to the cost. You may soon be up to the cost of a lightly used Bacchetta or similar.

    451 tires are harder to find than 406 tires, but they don't seem to be going extinct. Some of the companies (like Schwalbe) are adding 451 tires. The thing about the 406 tires is that, if you aren't using a rim and tire that are really narrow, you can buy tubes and emergency replacement (albeit low pressure) tires at places like Wal-Mart or any department store or hardware store that sells any bikes at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ric
    Don' get me wrong, If you want an Actionbent go for it. My biggest concern (question) with actionbent is how than can build a recumbent so cheap, with duel disk and all, I feel somewhere they have to be cutting corners. ...
    You can look at the component list (including the brakes) and decide if the quality is what you need or not. Doesn't seem to be anything fancy about most of these models. Beyond that, I think the corners being left off are no dealer markup and a very lean operation on Randy's end. I.e. most of the cost savings may be from low sales and distribution costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john riley
    Note that there apparently isn't much by way of useful instructions with the bike. It sounds like most people rely on info and pictures from the Yahoo group website. Unless your LBS is experienced with recumbents, just because they say, "no problem" doesn't mean there won't be any.

    A lot of people enjoy working on their own bike, have a good work area with a lot of tools, and have extra parts around to use for upgrades. For these people, the Actionbent may very well be a good entry point into the recumbent world.

    OTOH paying someone to do the assembly will add to the cost. You may soon be up to the cost of a lightly used Bacchetta or similar.

    451 tires are harder to find than 406 tires, but they don't seem to be going extinct. Some of the companies (like Schwalbe) are adding 451 tires. The thing about the 406 tires is that, if you aren't using a rim and tire that are really narrow, you can buy tubes and emergency replacement (albeit low pressure) tires at places like Wal-Mart or any department store or hardware store that sells any bikes at all.
    John, I am one of those people enjoy working on their own bike, have a good work area with a lot of tools, and have extra parts around to use for upgrades. but I still have a Recumbent shop that I use because I found out there not a DF. I do agree with what you said,to buy the bike,pay shipping then a LBS to put it together just defeats the purpose and when you have never ridden a recumbent and a High Racer to boot your taking a chance, and I don't know how good the resale on the actionbent will be.
    You need to ride as many as you can before you buy unless you just find your luv like I did, you may find that the style you want may not be the one your happiest with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sebran
    I'm thinking about buying my first road bike. I will mostly use it to commute 15 miles each way to work on rural highways. Area is mostly flat with some rolling hills. I am leaning toward DF bikes, but I keep coming back to recumbents. I figure if I can go faster, and feel better then why not get bent. Not many shops in Kalamazoo, MI carry bents, so I am thinking about buying from the internet. Has anyone ridden Actionbent's High Racer? The specs look pretty good and it is several hundred dollars less than the Bacchetta Strada, Giro 26 or Volae Sport. Any thoughts or experiences would be much appreciated.

    Scott
    I ordered my two bents directly from the dealers on the net, although I was a total beginner to recumbents and I can tell that from that day I didn't return to my DFs anymore. I used to ride a racer and a mountainbike. There are so many recumbents on the market now that you ought to testride a few of them before you decide which one you prefer. The feeling you get from riding a recumbent is impossible to describe you must make your own experience. To me lowracers with a laidback seatangle are the most comfortable ones especially if they are equipped with a headrest. As for ActionBents I have no reason to beleive that they should be inferior to the other bents mentioned above. What is important is whether it is easy or difficult to get spareparts for the bike. The price is mostly related to the components of the bike. Start with the standard equipment and upgrade your bike later. Thus you can have a bike at a lower cost to begin with. Hope to hear from you and welcome to the wonderful world of recumbents!

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    Hi All,, Ric i s rather astute in warning you about buying a problem child, for what its worth, the hi racer is removed from the lineup as of a day or so ago. The action bents,, are totally standard grade, copycat type engineered bikes. Not that copying is all bad,,as it can really make for a low cost bike. They are for folks,,who really cant afford something better,,although I think that a used quality bike at the same price is definitely better. The socalled warranty that s offered,,is simply,,,,,,replacement only,,and maybe it will be awhile before the stuff is sent from taiwan,,,, because the importer,,,and shipper,,doesnt stock a lot of component parts . The seats are KNOWN to be weak. He is actually cannabiliziing bikes in stock,,so that he can send seats out to customers whose seats break. That aint all bad either,,because it leaves him with some seatless bikes,, that he sells as framesets. You buy a good rans seat or make something sturdy and comfy and put it on his bargain basement frameset. If the absolute lowest price,, is necessary for you,,then maybe take a chance. I think the more basic action bents,,the older models,,are probably mostly ok now,,,,since the first customers,,, did the alpha testing for you already. I wouldnt consider some of the socalled cutting edge stuff that they sell,,,,,until youre very sure that it will be ok. Let somebody else deal with alpha testing. I do think,,,that a better choice for those with low prices in mind is an EZ model,,bought from your local dealer,, local dealers are important,, why buy stuff on the internet for just a somewhat lower price when youre going to have to deal with the repairs yourself and dont have that all important dealer support. Have fun guys.

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    Hi Guys, If you are still considering buying a bike with 451 wheels,there is an active discussion right now on the yahoo actionbent group about just that,check it out. And its free ! It appears,that 451 wheels may be getting dropped at action bent,they switched the road runner over to 559s and 406 s for the future models as they come thru the pipeline. There is also some yak about warranty problems that are going on right now. Have fun.
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