Tires for a lwb?
I have an EZ Sport AX with 26x1.35(559) rear and 20x1.35(406) front tires. Both are Schwalbe Kojak folding bead tires. I would like to try out some narrower tires that have folding beads, which I find really smooth out the ride. Any suggestions? Thanks, bk
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You can try Schwalbe Ultremo ZX's
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Folding beads make the tire lighter and easy to fold but why/how would they have any effect on the performance characteristics of a tire?
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I have been running a Conti Gatorskin 26x1.1 at 105psi on the rear of my LWB Bacchetta Belladare recumbent and like it a LOT. The narrow and fast tire is just about impossible to put a hole in and so less flats, and since I'm using the bike as a commuter, it's the right tire for me. HOWEVER, I'm just finding that I'm beating the heck out of my new rear wheel, and have just ordered a Schwalbe in a 26x1.75 size to try. I'm a BIG guy, 6'-4" and about 260 lbs, and so much of the load is on the rear wheel, so I'm going to try the bigger cross section tire, and a bit lower pressure to try and protect the rim
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Schwalbe Ultremo 406 on the front?
I got a pair of Schwalbe Ultremo ZX 406 tires as front tires on my 2013 Catrike 700. I replaced them almost immediately because it was pretty obvious that they were specifically designed for racing and not for someone who rides roads in the desert where thorns are sometimes a problem. They are feather light and have very little thickness where the rubber meets the road. Before I took them off, I looked up the price at several online recumbent stores and tire stores. If they were available, the cost was $75 each. The pressure range on them is 85 to 160 psi. I replaced them with some Mitsubishi Tioga tires that are wider, heavier, very much cheaper, and have visible tread on them. I haven't had any flats in just about 1,200 miles on the Tiogas. The rear tire, a 700C X23 Schwalbe Durano lasted 300 miles before developing sidewall failure. The Kenda Kadence tire that replaced the Durano had it's first flats at 900 miles and obviously a much tougher sidewall as there is no problem at all with the tire after the tube was repaired. I've purchased Schwalbe tires in the past but I don't see any in my future. In my personal experience the durability doesn't match the price they get for them.
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Bontrager T2 Road 700x28c on the rear of my LWB Tour easy LE,,
Max pressure is 115 I think, I'm 175 pounds and run 95 psi Wears like Iron, Rolls real easy, never a puncture and no this won't Jinx me,,, $25 Three of the above for $75,, about the same cost as the big names. will outlast them with ease and I get to spend more time on fresh sticky rubber. So Go on and pay the big name prices if you like. I can afford to hang a spare on my wall.. The Front of my LWB is lightly loaded so It keeps the Kenda quest 100psi 20x451 I run 85 psi up there, good traction wet or dry, light sand dustings not a problem... Also an Inexpensive tire... |
Originally Posted by VegasTriker
(Post 15918315)
I got a pair of Schwalbe Ultremo ZX 406 tires as front tires on my 2013 Catrike 700. I replaced them almost immediately because it was pretty obvious that they were specifically designed for racing and not for someone who rides roads in the desert where thorns are sometimes a problem. They are feather light and have very little thickness where the rubber meets the road. Before I took them off, I looked up the price at several online recumbent stores and tire stores. If they were available, the cost was $75 each. The pressure range on them is 85 to 160 psi. I replaced them with some Mitsubishi Tioga tires that are wider, heavier, very much cheaper, and have visible tread on them. I haven't had any flats in just about 1,200 miles on the Tiogas. The rear tire, a 700C X23 Schwalbe Durano lasted 300 miles before developing sidewall failure. The Kenda Kadence tire that replaced the Durano had it's first flats at 900 miles and obviously a much tougher sidewall as there is no problem at all with the tire after the tube was repaired. I've purchased Schwalbe tires in the past but I don't see any in my future. In my personal experience the durability doesn't match the price they get for them.
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JanMM, I run them below max pressure and the thin flexible sidewalls absorb a lot of pavement induced vibration which was driving the nerves in my hands nuts. They still give good speed, too. bk
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Originally Posted by bkaapcke
(Post 15918556)
JanMM, I run them below max pressure and the thin flexible sidewalls absorb a lot of pavement induced vibration which was driving the nerves in my hands nuts. They still give good speed, too. bk
That said, I've been running 26x1.25 Forte Metro K tires on my LWB (50/80psi Front/Rear) and find them a good balance between fast enough and sturdy. Reasonably cheap, too. Esp. compared to Schwalbe. Nashbar has a similar tire except with a higher thread count. (120 tpi) Neither come in a 20" version. |
Originally Posted by osco53
(Post 15918544)
Bontrager T2 Road 700x28c on the rear of my LWB Tour easy LE,,
Andrew |
Originally Posted by Aushiker
(Post 15920807)
The OP has a 26" wheel by the sounds of it ... not sure those 700c tyres would fit :)
Andrew http://www.bontrager.com/products/components/tires/ |
Doesn't an EZ Sport have wide rims? Don't know how narrow a tire will go on those rims. Could probably take 1.25 Kenda Kwests, but narrower than that might be iffy.
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I'm liking the looks of the gatorskins. 26x1.25 might just be the thing. Thanks guys. bk
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Originally Posted by bkaapcke
(Post 15928353)
I'm liking the looks of the gatorskins. 26x1.25 might just be the thing. Thanks guys. bk
Andrew |
Originally Posted by bkaapcke
(Post 15928353)
I'm liking the looks of the gatorskins. 26x1.25 might just be the thing. Thanks guys. bk
http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html Scroll down this page for the green and red chart. For a fast tire, you might try the Primo Comets in the size you have now. |
Sheldon's chart clearly says 1.25 is too narrow. It also shows that the 26x1.35's I now have are too narrow. Yet with 26x1.5's, which are o.k. on the chart, I kept cracking the rims around the brake surface. This lead me to believe the 1.5's were too wide, so I changed to 1.35's. So far, they are working well.
The more I think about this, the more doubts I get about Velocity rims. bk |
Originally Posted by bkaapcke
(Post 15953385)
Sheldon's chart clearly says 1.25 is too narrow. It also shows that the 26x1.35's I now have are too narrow. Yet with 26x1.5's, which are o.k. on the chart, I kept cracking the rims around the brake surface. This lead me to believe the 1.5's were too wide, so I changed to 1.35's. So far, they are working well.
The more I think about this, the more doubts I get about Velocity rims. bk |
Here is a comparison of my,
20 x 1.50 (40-406) max pressure 65 psi, I run 70 ish,,, and my, 20 x 1 1/8 (28-451) max pressure 100 psi, I run 85 ish,,, Both 20 inchers,, yeah right. I've run both on my Tour Easy, although with the 406 I have no front brake, with 65 psi in the fatty and 85 in the skinny, I feel Absolutely NO difference in rolling resistance, acceleration rate or handling... Note: These are front rollers on a Long wheel base ! I would assume I will feel a difference when I buy my next rear tire, I am on a 700x28C and will switch to a 700X32 or 34C, for no particular reason other than side walk cracks, rim protection, etc. Just saying,,, http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=334691 I did make the 16" to 20" mod to the front of my EZ-1 sx and that made a difference In handling. Too long to get into but the short version is, It did Improve the low speed handling some and to a lesser degree the Hi-speed handling. BUT trying to make the EZ-1 something Its not was not really worth the $100 and all the testing to get the rake just right. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=334692http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=334693 |
I had a Sport AX, AFAIK it came with 1.5 width tires?
I never had a problem with the rims cracking: logically the width of the tires should have no relation to brake/rum width. As for the OP, going for a narrower tire when looking for a more comfortable ride doesn't compute. Better to try different tire pressures, and compare sidewall stiffness. The Sport doesn't carry much weight on the front wheel, I found higher pressure there made the ride the ride hard and the tire skipped around on bumpy roads. I didn't need more than 60 to 65 psi up front, and 85 in the back (195 - 200 lb rider). While the Sport was faster than my Trice trike, it's more of a touring / cruising bike than a racer. |
Hi, I'm wondering what you dislike about the Kojaks. I have run them before and they rocked. They rolled fast and smooth, but wear fast. I also like Schwalbe Durano. A great milage tire. We are running Marathon Supremes on our tandem. They are my favorite all around tire.
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