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    rumination participation

    Pardon me while I think out loud a bit. Feel free to join in with your own mindless blather if you care to.

    I was sitting here taking a good hard long look at my ever present jelly roll. Given my age and quite a few other factors, jelly roll and I have gotten to know each other pretty well over the years. He has a strength and will of his own and after repeated attempts to beat him into submission he always finds a way to get off the mat. When I started riding bikes on a regular (strenuous) basis a few years back, I really thought I had him licked. I lost a great deal of his girth, if not a lot of weight overall, by riding my bike. Of course there came a time when I hit that plateau and quit losing, was just sort of holding my own. Even still, jelly was a lot smaller than he used to be.
    Over the last year I have taken to recumbent trikes to the point that I won't ride the DF as primary choice any more. I have noted that riding the trike works my legs (specifically my quads) a heck of a lot more than the DF. It requires a lot more of me to get that bike down the road. I find that I use a lot more muscles across my abdomen, arms, and shoulders...or should I say I use them in a much different way to counteract "boom steer" and whatnot. To me it feels as if going down the road X number of miles on the 'bent wouldn't tire me out the same way on the DF unless it was twice the mileage.

    ..as I said, just ruminating...

    So, we finished moving and I am getting in a bunch more miles, have quit eating the fast food, doing a lot more climbing. Where I am not getting any faster on the trike, the last ride I took on the DF was an easy 2.5mph average FASTER. But still, jelly persists, and I am gaining weight. I think I am building muscle in my legs and under jelly. It would sure explain the gain. It is strange to me that I feel like I am working harder, feel more tired out from the effort (more comfortable though) and in spite of that don't lose the weight the same way as while I ride the DF. I am guessing it simply comes down to hours in the saddle in spite of the perceived effort on my part.

    It's all good though. I did my longest open road trike ride the other day, a day ride from here to a small town South and back which was just under 50 miles. It went a long way towards improving my confidence riding the trike. In my mind I still have this fear about riding the trike in places that I wouldn't hesitate on the DF. I have been playing with some new tactics on road positioning, while improving speed and strength, along with the proper application of lights and flags. Reading along with some of the cross country tourers on trikes has gone a long way towards alleviating those fears as well. After all, I know that the presence of them in my mind is a construct of jelly. He is a devious and deceitful trickster.
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    I went through a phase where I was just as active as I had ever been. I was a competitive fencer and a coach of the same. I kept an exhausting schedule of activity as a result. I began to gain weight, even though I was cutting how much food I ate. I made sure to get sleep; and compounding my issue was a major loss of strength. It sort of crept up on me, until I had to say "Something is wrong here....". When I finally went to the doctor, I found out I was diabetic. A later doctor spoke with me about the timeframe I noticed things happening in, and said they were all signs of the condition getting worse. Had I listened to my body, I may have held full blown diabetes at bay.

    My only thought is to get to your doctor, explain the things you have going on and get a good checkup. Hopefully you will find nothing major- but you may also find some manor of developing issue that a checkup can prevent from getting worse.
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    Been there done that. Since 2005 I have been fully bent, and sold off my road bike and mountain bike. I now ride my bent and trike about 50-50. I try very hard not to put on too much weight in the winter. Here in the snowbelt I can only usually ride about 7 months out of the year, since I hate riding when it is cold, even if there is no snow. When I start riding, I rather quickly drop around 10 to 15 pounds of fat, and then quit losing as my muscle weight builds up.

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    Recumbent terminology

    The correct recumbent name is aerobelly. And, yes in spite of riding a lot more, you may not see immediate weight loss but it eventually will work if you are consuming fewer calories than you are burning. You don't have any control over where the fat loss takes place. It could be internal, one of the worst places to add fat in the first place. The added weight of new muscle means that though you have less fat, you might still weigh the same.

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    Lol, I think my aero belly may be getting defeated by the drag from the trike beard.

    I have noted over the last couple of weeks that the bigger rollers aren't bothering me as much, nor am I having to use the low gear in the DD3 as much. Still, with the 20" wheels I am not getting anywhere fast.
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    The belly or 'Jelly roll' comes from what you eat/drink

    A friend came to me starving on a diet, same old story, "I am hungry all the time, I cant do this"
    He continued, "I ride my bike, I walk, I lift weights, and I still have an ugly belly overhang and I am weak from eating like a bird"

    I drove to his home, knocked and walked right to his fridge. Opened it, What I saw was really sad, I turned around and opened his pantry....

    The Pantry was dominated by 2 liter cokes, cookies, pasta and canned soups loaded with sodium.
    The fridge, whole milk, eggs, sticks of butter, more coke, bacon, hot dogs, AND some salad stuff.
    I looked at his salad dressings, all bad fat ones, no low cal.

    Then the clincher, the freezer, Loaded with these real tasty looking frozen dinners,
    many stating 350 calories, 450 calories, most had 800 or more mg's of sodium.
    Ice cream, no frozen yogurt.

    He was drinking 700 to 900 calories of coca cola per day.
    Backing that up with 3,000 mg's of sodium, probably much much more of this stuff.

    His so called starvation grazing while attempting to keep his fat body energized and moving was all bad.
    Carbs Carbs and more Carbs,,,

    No amount of bicycling would ever help this fat man, He was a walking Heart attack !
    Loosing 6 pounds in 6 months eating like this would Zap anyone.

    I told him to call Nutrisystem and do exactly what they said,,, He did, he may get to be and old man if he stay's the course.
    http://www.nutrisystem.com/jsps_hmr/home/index.jsp

    Never ever again will I let my belly rule my body.
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    Everybody is unique; every body is unique.
    Generalizations are useful, as a starting point... but everyone is different.

    Over the years, I've been bombarded by the profit-driven fad diet of the moment.
    "Eat this, not that."
    "Paleo diet."
    "High protein."
    "Good carb - bad carb."
    "Atkins."
    "Weight Watchers."
    The list is endless, but both my patience and poor typing skills, mercifully, cuts this rant short.

    The body type I inherited is thin, so gaining weight is not my problem.
    Not only that, but I'm an exercise addict.
    Balancing this is my love of beer, baking and cooking.

    The food industry, like any industry, is looking to make a profit.
    The diet industry is, like any industry, looking to make a profit.

    My understanding is simple.
    Definitely simple-minded....

    My ancestors evolved to eat foods that evolved alongside my ancestors.
    Foods that are man-made are not, strictly speaking, food at all.

    Most food is seasonal.
    For example, eating fruit year-round is not natural.

    Historically, food was unavailable from time to time.
    Food was also over-abundant, from time to time.

    Now, keeping all this in mind, what works for me
    is to emulate my ancestors... mostly.

    But that's just me: you're different!

    -Steve

    Hopefully this thread will ramble on for a while!
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    I think ole Chuck Darwin needs to get off his ass and evolve us a bit. Barring the Zombie Apocalypse or a nuclear holocaust, we're just not going to become hunter-gatherers again. We need to evolve to allow us to be happy and healthy on a diet of Coke, Reese's Pieces, and potato chips.

    This paleo crap is so 1850s.

    My rant is over

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    Well, I do eat butter and sugar...I am scared more of the alternatives than the natural stuff. We have cut processed meats, I allow for one coke a day if I have that...my weakness being the Blanton's that is mixed with it. We try to eat fresh vegetables where we can, and have all but gotten to where we don't eat fast food. Reading around indicates that what I really need to do about diet is to start a food journal and actually see what is sneaking by on those late nights.

    Either way, I figure that jelly is good training for the gear that will be replacing it's weight (or adding to it) for a short self contained tour.
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    We bought smaller dinner plates,,, just saying
    Last edited by osco53; 10-17-13 at 02:49 PM.
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    Aero bellies can also be known as "one packs" rather than six packs.

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    They make a great place to set the water bottle while cruising along on the 'bent when you are feeling to lazy to lean back forward and put it in the cage too.
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    If you're truly losing body fat, then your pants will be getting looser.

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