Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 68
  1. #1
    Senior Member rydabent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Lincoln Ne
    My Bikes
    RANS Stratus TerraTrike Cruiser
    Posts
    3,710
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Who are they kidding.

    Just to stir things up a bit, I ask just who do they think they are kidding. In the DF vs bent argument, how can DF riders claim they are as comfortable their bikes as a bent rider is? They are sitting on a narrow hard seat, and we are mainly setting on a lawn chair. In the argument DF riders seem to forget that most of us bent riders have put tens of thousands of miles on DF our selves. From experience we know where of we speak.

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Minnesota
    My Bikes
    Raleighs, Kabukis, and a Peugeot
    Posts
    135
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    'Bents are dorky. Just sayin'.

  3. #3
    Senior Member rebel1916's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    2,709
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Your trolling lacks subtlety and finesse.

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Sin City, Nevada
    My Bikes
    Catrike 700, Greenspeed GTO trike, Wizwheelz 3.4 trike, Linear LWB recumbent, Haluzak Horizon SWB recumbent, Balance 450 MTB
    Posts
    715
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You have only to read the posts of the endless quest to buy the right (most comfortable) seat for a DF to realize that you are correct about comfort of DF bikes vs recumbents. BTW, many of us are old enough and wise enough to not give a crap about how dorky they look. I'd rather be a dork who rides thousands of miles a year that not-a-dork who rides a few hundred miles a year if that much.

  5. #5
    The Recumbent Quant cplager's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Norwalk, CT
    My Bikes
    2012 Cruzbike Sofrider, 2013 Cruzigami Mantis
    Posts
    2,771
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I have a good friend who rides at a much higher level than I on DFs. For him, it isn't a question if 'bents are more comfortable than DFs (he agrees they're not), but rather if DFs are comfortable enough (and for him, they are). He rides his bike and I ride mine (and he'd have to ride a lot slower if we ride together ).

    I agree that 'bents would make sense for a lot of people who haven't tried them. Hopefully more and more people will try them in time.
    http://Charles.Plager.net
    http://RecumbentQuant.blogspot.com

  6. #6
    Senior Member BlazingPedals's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Middle of da Mitten
    My Bikes
    Trek 7500, RANS V-Rex, Optima Baron, Velokraft NoCom, M-5 Carbon Highracer, homebuilt recumbent
    Posts
    7,018
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by cplager View Post
    ... it isn't a question if 'bents are more comfortable than DFs ..., but rather if DFs are comfortable enough...
    I think this is the crux. I believe that few cyclists are lucky enough to have the bike "disappear under them" as some claim; but that's not necessary. All they really want is for it to be bearable. To most, it's just not worth investing in a new style bike and all the modification of their riding style, just to avoid what is a minor annoyance to them. And when pressed about that minor annoyance, they'll emphatically deny it exists at all, just to avoid the debate.

    In the meantime, if someone on a Safety Bike complains that they can't keep up and I'm "cheating," I tell them that, by their own mantra, it's the engine not the bike, and if they really believe otherwise there's nothing preventing them from getting a bent, too.

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    151
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I lust after recumbents... The first time I saw one zip past me like I was sitting still when I was actually pushing as hard as I could, I was sold. The fact that the guy looked like he was taking a nap may have influenced me a bit.

    I am not immature enough to care what other people think of how I look.

    There are two reasons I do not own one.
    1st, I live in a very hilly area and am concerned about climbing hills. I am naturally a pretty good hill climber. That's probably my biggest cycling strength. Would that transfer to a recumbent?
    2nd... price. I can get very good traditional road bikes for $400 all day long. I haven't seen a decent recumbent anywhere near that. Spending that kind of cash on something I consider to be a gamble is a bit much.

    Alas, the lust is there.

  8. #8
    Senior Member zonatandem's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    My Bikes
    ariZona carbon fiber tandem & single
    Posts
    9,937
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Over 300,000 miles so far on DF bikes. At age 81 still riding comfortably 100+ miles a week.
    Yes, have tried a couple bents, and so far see no need or reason to get one.
    We are both happy what we are riding . . .

  9. #9
    Senior Member rydabent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Lincoln Ne
    My Bikes
    RANS Stratus TerraTrike Cruiser
    Posts
    3,710
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I would rather look "dorky" than have the back of my neck, and my rear end hurt on a century ride. Further on my bents I sit up and get to see the whole route rather than staring at a front wheel a good percentage of the time.

  10. #10
    Daily Rider Robert C's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Salt Lake, UT
    My Bikes
    an Allegro (which appears to be a Performer low-racer clone),2 Specialized Stumpjumpers, a BikeE, a Bachetta, a Merida, a Giant Tourer 2.0, and a dahon D7 that my daughter has absocunded with
    Posts
    911
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I rode 68 miles today on my Bacchetta. . . my legs are a little sore; but the rest of me feels fine, There is no way I would feel this good after ridding that far on a safety bike (I will admit that my face seems a little sun burnt, nothing serious, I can just feel the presence of my skin).

    So what if I look a bit dorky, there is nothing I can do to look as cool as some of you; so I see no need to put up with the pain of trying.
    As a nation we still continue to enjoy a literally unprecedented prosperity; and it is probable that only reckless speculation and disregard of legitimate business methods on the part of the business world can materially mar this prosperity. Theodore Roosevelt, Sixth Annual Message, December 3, 1906

  11. #11
    Senior Member Northwestrider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Gig Harbor, WA
    My Bikes
    Surly Long Haul Trucker, Gary Fisher Hoo Koo E Koo, Dahon Mu P 24 , Bacchetta Strada, Rodriguez Tandem
    Posts
    2,072
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I'm happy and comfortable on my DF, I'm happy and a bit more comfortable on my bent. Bent's IMO will become mainstream if their maneuverability were to somehow improve, and the cost were to lower. For a large portion of society , bents are simply too expensive.

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Vancouver, BC
    Posts
    4,920
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
    I would rather look "dorky" than have the back of my neck, and my rear end hurt on a century ride. Further on my bents I sit up and get to see the whole route rather than staring at a front wheel a good percentage of the time.
    Last week I went for a 1 1/2 hr hike up a ski hill (1200 m elevation change) and my legs burned and back hurt most of the way. I did it for fun but was never what you might call 'comfortable'. If I want comfort I'll stay on the couch....

  13. #13
    Senior Member CommuteCommando's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    In the drops on the roads of North San Diego/South Orange Counies CA
    My Bikes
    KHS Alite 500, Trek 7.2 FX , Masi Partenza, Masi Fixed Special, Masi Cran Criterium
    Posts
    2,883
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I have ridden both and there are pluses and minuses to both. Recumbent are more comfortable, and I would consider using one if I ever went on a multi day tour. They are slightly less stable; if you get in a bad attitide, it is more difficult to correct by shifting your weight. They are more expensive than comparably equipped DF's due to economies of scale. That last is why I don't have one.
    Freedom is free. It's included in democracy. Democracy is hard. It involves dealing rationally with people you disagree with.

  14. #14
    The Recumbent Quant cplager's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Norwalk, CT
    My Bikes
    2012 Cruzbike Sofrider, 2013 Cruzigami Mantis
    Posts
    2,771
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by zonatandem View Post
    Over 300,000 miles so far on DF bikes. At age 81 still riding comfortably 100+ miles a week.
    Yes, have tried a couple bents, and so far see no need or reason to get one.
    We are both happy what we are riding . . .
    And I see no reason to suggest you change.

    I want you to be happy riding a bike. Or trike. Or unicycle.

    And you are. So we're golden.
    http://Charles.Plager.net
    http://RecumbentQuant.blogspot.com

  15. #15
    The Recumbent Quant cplager's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Norwalk, CT
    My Bikes
    2012 Cruzbike Sofrider, 2013 Cruzigami Mantis
    Posts
    2,771
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by gregf83 View Post
    Last week I went for a 1 1/2 hr hike up a ski hill (1200 m elevation change) and my legs burned and back hurt most of the way. I did it for fun but was never what you might call 'comfortable'. If I want comfort I'll stay on the couch....
    I do stay on the couch. It just happens to have two wheels.
    http://Charles.Plager.net
    http://RecumbentQuant.blogspot.com

  16. #16
    Senior Member rydabent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Lincoln Ne
    My Bikes
    RANS Stratus TerraTrike Cruiser
    Posts
    3,710
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Look at the DF seat. If you go to a well stocked LBS, or look in a cycling catalog, there are a ton of different DF seats. You would think at after more than 100 years someone would have come up with a seat that is comfortable. With all those seats available, it is logical to assume no such seat exists.

  17. #17
    rugged individualist wphamilton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Alpharetta, GA
    My Bikes
    Nashbar Road
    Posts
    5,456
    Mentioned
    8 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I'd love to get a 'bent some time, for several reasons. Not because of saddle comfort however -practically any DF saddle works for me.

    I'd get a low racer with a long wheelbase and adulterate it with one of my home-brew Coroplast full fairings, maybe hide an electric drive in there somewhere.

  18. #18
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Dayton OH
    My Bikes
    2013 Trek One Series
    Posts
    91
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
    Look at the DF seat. If you go to a well stocked LBS, or look in a cycling catalog, there are a ton of different DF seats. You would think at after more than 100 years someone would have come up with a seat that is comfortable. With all those seats available, it is logical to assume no such seat exists.
    Logic would be sound if there were not so many hind ends and preferences for seat type.

    I have found a seat I'm comfortable with, Serfas RX. Others don't care for that seat. Some feel it is too bulky or soft. Their rear end, their choice.

    Personally, I would not like sitting on a recumbent. I don't care for the way I'm positioned. Maybe when I get older or if I have to be bent over due to a back problem, but for now, I would rather have a DF bike.

  19. #19
    el padre
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Central Kansas
    My Bikes
    Linear,
    Posts
    1,470
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    sports car, SUV, limosine...there is a variety in 4-wheel transport too...I suppose somewhere there is a blog/forum on whether one or the other is better. I like my long wheel base & my trike...but do ride DF once in a while, the 2-speed bendix and the "stair-stepper" bike that I just bought, cause someone had it and I could buy it. so I do have some variety in life.

  20. #20
    Senior Member La Tortue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    106
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    seems the same applies to recumbent seats

    Quote Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
    Look at the DF seat. If you go to a well stocked LBS, or look in a cycling catalog, there are a ton of different DF seats. You would think at after more than 100 years someone would have come up with a seat that is comfortable. With all those seats available, it is logical to assume no such seat exists.
    I've seen very few recumbent riders happy with their seats after they ride for awhile. They constantly cut , change, or add on expensive modifications. Then they move to the head rests and the unhappiness goes through the roof.
    More riding less Blogging

  21. #21
    Senior Member BlazingPedals's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Middle of da Mitten
    My Bikes
    Trek 7500, RANS V-Rex, Optima Baron, Velokraft NoCom, M-5 Carbon Highracer, homebuilt recumbent
    Posts
    7,018
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by La Tortue View Post
    I've seen very few recumbent riders happy with their seats after they ride for awhile. They constantly cut , change, or add on expensive modifications. Then they move to the head rests and the unhappiness goes through the roof.
    You're not just making that up to stir things up, are you? I've never heard of such a thing; and there are over 100 bents in my bike club.

  22. #22
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Vancouver, BC
    Posts
    4,920
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
    Look at the DF seat. If you go to a well stocked LBS, or look in a cycling catalog, there are a ton of different DF seats. You would think at after more than 100 years someone would have come up with a seat that is comfortable. With all those seats available, it is logical to assume no such seat exists.
    Same thing applies to shoes. There are thousands of different shoes available because manufacturers haven't figured out how to make a comfortable shoe.

  23. #23
    Senior Member La Tortue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    106
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by BlazingPedals View Post
    You're not just making that up to stir things up, are you? I've never heard of such a thing; and there are over 100 bents in my bike club.
    One word "no", it is based on ten years of close observations of the recumbent species. A strange group those recumbent riders, very strange indeed.
    More riding less Blogging

  24. #24
    johnliu@earthlink.net jyl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Portland OR
    My Bikes
    61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 88? P'geot Perthus? 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997
    Posts
    3,426
    Mentioned
    15 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    DF saddles can be comfortable for long rides. I rode 50 miles today and never noticed my saddle. I rode 100 miles earlier this month and spent about 5 minutes thinking "hmm my butt is sore" which isn't bad for a several hour ride.

    You just need (1) the right saddle for your anatomy and riding position, (2) padded shorts, (3) get out of the saddle occasionally, and (4) to ride with purpose.

    The last point, (4), is often overlooked. The harder you press down on the pedals, the less pressure on your butt. I'm not talking about pedaling while standing. I mean when you are riding hard, although you are seated, your butt is sort of floating on the saddle.
    Your signature contains too many lines and must be shortened. You may only have up to 2 line(s). Long text may have been implicitly wrapped, causing it to be

  25. #25
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    151
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by jyl View Post

    The last point, (4), is often overlooked. The harder you press down on the pedals, the less pressure on your butt. I'm not talking about pedaling while standing. I mean when you are riding hard, although you are seated, your butt is sort of floating on the saddle.
    Yeah, I gotta agree with this point. I don't really care about the debate going on, but one of the things I hear from new cyclists is that the "seat hurts."

    It's not a seat. It's a saddle. The difference being that you sit in a seat, but a saddle just stabilized you on the bike. On a bike, your weight should be divided among your hands, feet and butt or "sit bones." Getting it right, though, takes practice... well, not really practice, but experience. Just ride. Focus on getting the weight off your butt & it's golden.



    That being said, there's something incredibly alluring about cruising 10 mph faster while reclining in a chaise lounge.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •