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Old 06-08-09, 11:48 AM   #226
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hey keith, if ur willing to wait a week, u can nab urself a set from here.

http://www.tufonorthamerica.biz/

prices is in canadian and shipping is from vancouver..!

maybe u can lend ur personal experience on this, but how many tubulars have u seen that are slightly out of round?

i am retruing this rear wheel, but wtf, unless my ***** is overly sensitive, i think im still feeling a touch of a hop....
Last I talked to Vlad at TUFO...they were not doing tub-clincher cross' tires anymore.

So you are trying to true a tubular wheel with a tire glued? Cheap tubs often are a bit wonky. They also get wonky with age as they dry out. If the wheel was stored resting on the tire, de-flated, it could have put a flat spot in the tire as well. The trueness of the tire is also reliant on the gluing job...if it is done haphazardly the tire doesn't sit straight. It is hard to do a good job of radial trueness (roundness) with a tire mounted. If the hop is at the valve, the rim valve hole prolly needs to be recessed...a metal countersink bit is best for this.
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I'm looking for a new messenger bag and am having trouble finding a selection to choose from.

So far, I've been to Crumpler, Dukes, Urbane, MEC, BOW, Cyclemotive, and Sweet Pete's.
If there are even any in stock, it's slim pickings (except crumpler, but i don't like their stuff).

I'm interested in Chrome, Pac, Incase, and any other high-end brands.

Any suggestions?
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U.T.W. and PAC are both locally made and are quality bags. Custom orders typically don't take that long and you get exactly what you want. My favorite bag is a PAC (I have pared down the bag collection to about 6 now)...I have had it for over 10 years, is by far the most used and it is still in great shape.
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10mm is enormous huh?
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One place in Toronto, Chain Reaction... wanted 99 bucks for one of their tires.
Not sure how many differing tires they make. Which model was 40something?

La Bicicletta doesn't carry their tires, but other Tufo stuff apparently.

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I'm looking for a new messenger bag and am having trouble finding a selection to choose from.

So far, I've been to Crumpler, Dukes, Urbane, MEC, BOW, Cyclemotive, and Sweet Pete's.
If there are even any in stock, it's slim pickings (except crumpler, but i don't like their stuff).

I'm interested in Chrome, Pac, Incase, and any other high-end brands.

Any suggestions?
Thanks!
There are some Freitag (sp?) bags at the shop in the Annex but dang, they are expensive.

I saw a couple of Chrome bags on CL awhile ago and I know there is a Timbuk2 listed right now----just search on CL or Kijiji for one, the ones I remember seeing from Chrome were $100 or so.
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for keith: http://www.tufonorthamerica.biz/inde...roducts_id=387

I peeled off the tire, the wheel has recessed nipples, so....
it means im just gonna have to get good with this wrench (thx much operator) and lining up my brakepads..


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One place in Toronto, Chain Reaction... wanted 99 bucks for one of their tires.
Not sure how many differing tires they make. Which model was 40something?

La Bicicletta doesn't carry their tires, but other Tufo stuff apparently.
the PRO 22 tubular.

my bad, its $43.

http://www.tufonorthamerica.biz/inde...ath=1_4_65_106

the PRO 22 Tubular Clinchers is also $43.

http://www.tufonorthamerica.biz/inde...ath=1_4_65_107

if you do a group buy or spend more than $120, its free shipping.


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In the next few weeks I plan to ride to work from Bloor to Bayview/MJR MAC in Richmond Hill a couple of times. If anyone is free and interested in an early morning hell ride please pm me.
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Thats the straight tub version not the tub-clincher.
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dah sorry man, i suck as a cyclist and even worse as an arm-chair-cyclist..
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I have theory, that is mine. I've noticed in all the bad press us cyclists have been getting lately, there is an overwhelming common theme about how if cyclists obeyed the rules of the road, we'd die less. My theory being .... here's where it gets crazy. Is that: I submit that the majority of cyclists killed, were killed, not just while riding according to the law, but more BECAUSE they were.

Riding in the door zone.... "as right as practicable", doored and then run over and killed. 110$ ticket to the doorer.
Virtually every cyclist in the early season killed seems to have been killed for being on the right hand side, by someone who "didn't see them"

This to me sounds like motorists are killing cyclists due to their lack of obeying the laws they whine we don't follow.
I don't wish to be ignorant about it, therefore I'd like to search out statistics... or for Toronto... all the data regarding cyclists killed in say what .... the last 5 years? Inversely, the "scofflaw riders" .... say, messengers, who are experienced in traffic have developed their own set of rules for riding with traffic. They seem to get hit / killed ALOT less than those following the rules on the books.

Any statistical monsters out there know where I might go fish?
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this is my first crack at commuting and i nearly got run off the road, mt pleasant going north, up hill, in parking-lot-like-traffic. Black Benz SUV, is crawling right so i slow and take the middle between both north bound lanes, then the Benz starts verring off to the left. "i'm like wtf, is this person drunk?"

as i pass them, and in my better judgement NOT slap their hood, the 30 something female suburban is too busy to look at the road cuz she is PEELING THE LABEL OFF HER WATER BOTTLE

WTF!

I DENOTE HOOD SLAPPING FOR ALL.

that and I think its clear that drivers pay far more attention to cyclists when they are in the middle of the road, not on the side of them..
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Yeah. Bike lanes, and "ride on the right" rules only perpetuate the notion that cyclists don't belong on the road. In order to be visible you should be on the car lane (on the right next to the shoulder is OK), and to be defensive you need to ride away from the curb and door zone. Believe it or not I was in Vancouver some time ago and they have bike lanes right to the left of parked cars...

TJ in here there are a few doc on cycling accidents (2003 and 1998). I took a look some time ago but can't remember.

I think you're right.. the official rules are full of contradictions. One one hand a bikes are officially considered like other vehicles unless where it can't apply, but on the other hand we have to ride on the right and some other BS.

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Keith, I've ordered some new tubulars for my Hed wheels. Are you able to glue them for me? That's one of many skills I do not have.
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this is my first crack at commuting and i nearly got run off the road, mt pleasant going north, up hill, in parking-lot-like-traffic. Black Benz SUV, is crawling right so i slow and take the middle between both north bound lanes, then the Benz starts verring off to the left. "i'm like wtf, is this person drunk?"

as i pass them, and in my better judgement NOT slap their hood, the 30 something female suburban is too busy to look at the road cuz she is PEELING THE LABEL OFF HER WATER BOTTLE

WTF!

I DENOTE HOOD SLAPPING FOR ALL.

that and I think its clear that drivers pay far more attention to cyclists when they are in the middle of the road, not on the side of them..
You are right - they DO pay much more attention when you're in front of them, as my little encounter this Sunday proved. Traveling along Gerrard, just before University, I needed to be in my left lane to make the turn to head south. So I hop into the left lane and approach the red light at University. Before I come to a stop, say about 70m from the intersection, the light goes green. Behind me, this lady starts laying into her horn and trying to illegally pass me on the left. Naturally, I ensured my left arm was out at this point, regardless of how many fingers I had up . So I make my turn and so does she, and we exchange a few words at the next light. According to this gently caressing woman, I'm an, "idiot" because she can apparently go, "10x faster" than me. That's interesting! I didn't know the Chrysler Reliant could do 280km/h! Remarkable!

Let's think about this:
1) There are several hospitals at University & Gerrard, so the limit won't be over 50. 280km/h is surely over that!
2) I am legally required to be in that(left) lane to make the left-hand turn. Had I made the turn from the right-hand lane, I could be on the hook for a ticket.
3) Nothing gives one vehicle the right to pass on a solid line to overtake a slower vehicle in that situation.

Needless to say, I didn't have the time to impart these observations, so I settled for a simple, "go to hell".
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I have theory, that is mine. I've noticed in all the bad press us cyclists have been getting lately, there is an overwhelming common theme about how if cyclists obeyed the rules of the road, we'd die less. My theory being .... here's where it gets crazy. Is that: I submit that the majority of cyclists killed, were killed, not just while riding according to the law, but more BECAUSE they were.

Riding in the door zone.... "as right as practicable", doored and then run over and killed. 110$ ticket to the doorer.
Virtually every cyclist in the early season killed seems to have been killed for being on the right hand side, by someone who "didn't see them"

This to me sounds like motorists are killing cyclists due to their lack of obeying the laws they whine we don't follow.
I don't wish to be ignorant about it, therefore I'd like to search out statistics... or for Toronto... all the data regarding cyclists killed in say what .... the last 5 years? Inversely, the "scofflaw riders" .... say, messengers, who are experienced in traffic have developed their own set of rules for riding with traffic. They seem to get hit / killed ALOT less than those following the rules on the books.

Any statistical monsters out there know where I might go fish?
I am a 'scofflaw' cyclist and I think it the reason why I haven't been hit once in nearly 25 years of cycling on the streets of Toronto.
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this is my first crack at commuting and i nearly got run off the road, mt pleasant going north, up hill, in parking-lot-like-traffic. Black Benz SUV, is crawling right so i slow and take the middle between both north bound lanes, then the Benz starts verring off to the left. "i'm like wtf, is this person drunk?"
I live close to that hill and avoid it at all costs, too many close calls. There's a lot of blind spots with traffic speeding up that hill, it's not worth it.

Make a right onto roxborough, and you have a plethora of options once you're at the top of that hill, i usually make my way to moore and re-join mount pleasant there. It'll probably add 5 minutes to your commute but you'll be a lot safer.

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Keith, I've ordered some new tubulars for my Hed wheels. Are you able to glue them for me? That's one of many skills I do not have.
Yup. My glue pot is empty though so give me a couple days to get a new one.
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I am a 'scofflaw' cyclist and I think it the reason why I haven't been hit once in nearly 25 years of cycling on the streets of Toronto.
+1....well there was that one time...
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Heh, I forgot about one...I smacked into the rear bumper of a Ford Tempo that cut me off when he left-turned in front of me on Spadina but I didn't hit the ground.

I fall off my bike all the time but it's usually my own fault, as anyone who has read the main forum's MSpaint thread can attest
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i'm going through my ICEBIKE LISTSERV at the moment, and this particular exchange rang true for me:

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Every day there is some new electronic gadgetry being introduced to further distract cagers. Cyclists are now in a never-ending arms race against those distractions to stay visible.

No doubt. When you've got a cell phone, PDA, DVD player, GPS, stereos that rattle body panels apart and render mirrors useless, and displays that show mileage both current and average or miles to empty ('cause it's fun to watch) it's a miracle that these people can keep their cars on the road. In too many cases, they cannot.

I see it as no wonder drivers want the roads all to themselves. I mean clear of everything. They really want a 6-lane freeway that has no one else on it. Throw in all wonderful "safety" gadgets: seatbelts, front and side airbags, anti-lock brakes, traction control, stability control, auto brake, auto counter-steer, and whatnot. It isn't terribly surprising that a great many motorists think that posted speeds are the *minimum* speed permissible on any given road.
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I have theory, that is mine. I've noticed in all the bad press us cyclists have been getting lately, there is an overwhelming common theme about how if cyclists obeyed the rules of the road, we'd die less. My theory being .... here's where it gets crazy. Is that: I submit that the majority of cyclists killed, were killed, not just while riding according to the law, but more BECAUSE they were.

Riding in the door zone.... "as right as practicable", doored and then run over and killed. 110$ ticket to the doorer.
Virtually every cyclist in the early season killed seems to have been killed for being on the right hand side, by someone who "didn't see them"

This to me sounds like motorists are killing cyclists due to their lack of obeying the laws they whine we don't follow.
I don't wish to be ignorant about it, therefore I'd like to search out statistics... or for Toronto... all the data regarding cyclists killed in say what .... the last 5 years? Inversely, the "scofflaw riders" .... say, messengers, who are experienced in traffic have developed their own set of rules for riding with traffic. They seem to get hit / killed ALOT less than those following the rules on the books.

Any statistical monsters out there know where I might go fish?
The last systematic summary of deaths in Toronto that I'm aware of was in the '98 coronors report. http://www.toronto.ca/cycling/coroner_summary.htm.
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Thanks for the links guys.
It seems, from a cursory glance that the more driver training required to achieve licensing, the less likely you are to be killed by them. hmmmm but it's us who need to learn the rules right?

G-class cars-light trucks account for 92% of nonfatal and 63% of the fatal collisions in the 1986-1996 study.

in a break down of license class fatal collisions.
G (cars/light trucks) 63%
D (large trucks/dumpers/cement mixers) 21%
A (18 wheelers) 8%
C (TTC/intercity buses) 5%
B (School buses) 3%

So from this I derive that the better trained you are as a driver the less likely you are to kill someone in your vehicle. the data is somewhat incomplete because it doesn't delve into whom was doing what at the time. I think would require an exhaustive study of the police reports for each and every crash.
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Hi all,

I'll stick up my head again from months of lurking to say that the two times I was hit I was doing all the right things. In the second instance a woman cut a corner so bad that she nearly hit the curb on my side, and wasn't looking at all my blinky lights and reflective everything when she hit me head on about a foot from that curb, destroying a CCM Elite crap beater and bruising up my precious self. Unionville. Never go there.

My scofflaw self-preservation moves have never brought me to harm.

In other news, as I rode the DVP southbound south of the Millwoods bridge at around 11:20 yesterday, a deer came loping up the road northbound through light bicycle traffic. Then it hopped the concrete divider to the northbound lanes, ran into the path of a truck that was clearing up after the ride, got away safely after the truck braked for it, and leaped away into the forest. The best moment of a beautiful day.
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It seems, from a cursory glance that the more driver training required to achieve licensing, the less likely you are to be killed by them. hmmmm but it's us who need to learn the rules right?

G-class cars-light trucks account for 92% of nonfatal and 63% of the fatal collisions in the 1986-1996 study.

in a break down of license class fatal collisions.
G (cars/light trucks) 63%
D (large trucks/dumpers/cement mixers) 21%
A (18 wheelers) 8%
C (TTC/intercity buses) 5%
B (School buses) 3%

So from this I derive that the better trained you are as a driver the less likely you are to kill someone in your vehicle. the data is somewhat incomplete because it doesn't delve into whom was doing what at the time. I think would require an exhaustive study of the police reports for each and every crash.
Unfortunately these kinds of events are very hard to study, particularly as they're not that common. Keep in mind too that there are likely more class G vehicles on the road. So if you controlled for that, you may find the differences aren't as great as they appear.

Here's something else I found: http://www.toronto.ca/transportation.../2008_bike.pdf

and If you think cyclists have it bad
http://www.toronto.ca/transportation...strian_safety/
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