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Old 04-08-06, 04:44 PM   #3651
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I noticed my name and product mentioned..thought I might chime in...as it were..

Alright I love the crack about me in the house coat. Some refer to it as a "kimino".

So this is T.dot fixie huh?

I dont rememeber the xmen comic where they ride around on fixies..but ok great pic, wheres wolvie? or any of the babes?

It was funny reading about you guys trying to figure out the shop where the picture of my bike is taken.. ha ha maybe its cogs..

Sorry I had to move the shop ran out of space, I had to have room to run the other store too.

In any case I have posted a thread looking for ideas for the next frame, sadly I dont see any input. I would like to be able to provide an inexpensive fixie frame, and I have some other frames in mind..

Really im looking to get steel happening again.

So if you see my thread, chime in Id like to hear what youd like to see in a frame. Ive also taken note of your tire needs and am looking into them.. cheap slick $16 to $20..hmm folding?
You prefer narrow to wider?

Cavernmech? let me guess that must be kieth! I didnt realize you had a sense of humor..wink wink ha ha

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Old 04-08-06, 05:55 PM   #3652
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Hey Polly (john-green caloi stolen from in front of the old shop) nice to see you about hope things are going a bit better from last we spoke.

New frames? Dose that mean you have the shop open again?

Btw I built a fixed gear check it out in my link below.

Hope all is good.

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Old 04-08-06, 06:25 PM   #3653
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Johnboy.

Thats a sweet ride man. Whats the complete spec? ie wheels, cranks etc...

The shop is has always been open, but by appointment. I suspose its time to come out of hiding soon.

The frames.. Id like input.. what do you guys want?

I have another few items which im working on I hope to unveal samples of soon.

why dont you email me paul_in_toronto@yahoo.com I could use some creative input, I can let you in on the whole plan. The frames are just one piece of the puzzle...

FYI I have a crap load of those mutant stems.. I picked up from GB @ NAB.. Looks sweet on your ride.

Hmm I feel like im hijacking this thread.

Ive also been thinking alot about why we dont have a track here. Those of you who know a bit about toronto history might remember that maple leaf gardens had track racing at one time.

Any body interested in trying to push for our own track?

Hmm now how could that pay for itself..thats the thing.. off track betting??
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Old 04-08-06, 07:57 PM   #3654
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Hey thanks just put another pic up on flickr with a rundown

Guess every one interested in track goes to London but you would think it would work in Toronto lots of people ride bikes & some ride fixed.

I will drop you a e-mail see what you’re up to.
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Old 04-08-06, 08:50 PM   #3655
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Re track in toronto.

Keep in mind we had it a few times. Long long ago and the figure 8.

Its really a question of economics. One problem is toronto doesnt have cheap rentals like it used to, maybe way back when you could have rented a huge warehouse space for a less then a grand. Stuck a track there.

One option I can see is the betting side. I wonder if that could be legal to do?

We could have something like rollerball..
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Thanks for coming out to my show last night guys, I really appreciate it! Concensus was that it was a smashing success
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Old 04-09-06, 12:36 PM   #3658
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Hey Paul, welcome to the forums! Enjoy your stay... Do you happen to have any of those 3t stems in threaded and silver? Also I think that if you get some frames built they should be pretty no-frills, ie. lower range butted steel tubes tigged together. if you wanted to make it more fancy you could try some shaped tubes; you don't really see shaped steel tubes on track bikes these days. The geometry would be up to you and your customers though I guess. Just don't use those butt ugly sheet metal track ends!

I have also been thinking over the velodrome in toronto idea for a little while. Rents in downtown are crazy, but theres plenty of places within the GTA accessible by bike or transit that could be rented for not too bad a price (think scarborough). There is also the Waterfront Revitalization Program happening over the next 50 or so years, so eventually all the derelict east donlands and other brownfields will be redeveloped. Now would be the time to get in on that land before it starts rising much more in value; At the moment the city (or province, or feds, as the parcels of land there are pretty much divided up between the 3 levels or government and private ownership) might still be pretty receptive to give some subsidies and land grants to such a noble cause. Its really just a whole mess of logistics and red tape, and I have no idea about the complexities of building and maintaining a track as well as keeping the whole operation in the black...
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the front wheel is borrowed from biseagal while they do a little work on my level/mavic front. I was introduced to 'toe overlap' yesterday when I tried to bust a track stand. Needless to say it was a somewhat sudden encounter!
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Old 04-09-06, 01:31 PM   #3660
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sick!
what chain is that? its like a blingin' necklace.
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Cyclops looks great Shiznaz.
Who wants to chill for lunch at kensington tomorrow at 1?

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Your cyclops makes me weep, it's so beautiful...

My guess on a velodrome in TO would it would end up either being in 'burbville or outdoor. For an indoor track i in the GTA with adequate spectator space, you'd need a large area and some old money with a cough to poney it up as a last bequeth. Most half decent industrial space gets snagged for lofts/condos (which at least helps reduce sprawl) and there's not much else for options, unless perhaps as part of a waterfront development as someone else mentioned. The old TTC barns around Witchwood and Spadina aren't big enough (I checked) and they're being developed as artist co-ops anyway. Either that or it would need to happen as part of a university athletic refurbishment or olympic bid, much as Calgary's skating oval happened. I would very much like to see it happen. It'd be a great low cost recreation and excellent way to get kids into cycling. The potential would be huge. I'd suggest there'd be almost no luck getting it with betting a la Kierin. Too much of a hassle and sort of "at odds" with the purity of sport gig I'd think it would have to come out under.

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Old 04-09-06, 05:40 PM   #3663
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Half-link chain? The bike looks delish.

I'm down w/ lunch tomorrow. In the morning I'm going to do 50k worth of laps at Leslie spit, then I'll hoof my ass back to Kensington for some food (empinadas, perhaps).
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Old 04-09-06, 06:11 PM   #3664
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Shiznaz,
hey thanks man! Ya Im digging this thread, and this site. I'm trying to figure out who some of the people are on here, I know Johnboy and Kieth. Im wondering if some of you guys are ex couriers that I rode with.

Didnt pay too much attention what type of show you just had was it art, or music? Id be happy to do a write up or small addy and post it on cyclescanada.com. I actually intend to start adding content to the site, ie interviews reviews etc.. Maybe an interview perhaps..

I have a cyclops story for you. Its making me chuckle thinking of it.

Picture the 80s, Im living in mississauga and I am the most freaky looking kid decked out in long coat, motor cycle boots, and at times wild teased hair.
I went to clarkson secondary, and I was "the token punk/goth/scary kid". Also attending clarkson secondary was a young "Marcel mullholland" who is the son of the founder of cyclops .. hmm are they even still around?

In any case marcel and me got to hanging around because, he wanted to be more punk. We started the
little punk/goth clique of at clarkson, and thus began the invasion of the mississauga suburbs.

The epilogue was I was eventually asked to leave the school.. uh more stories for later. Back then I really wasnt into bikes like I am now. I had either some crap tire job or a raliegh (which came from abraham on bloor)

Re the track. Betting is one option to have it pay for itself. Rather then being propped up by donations.
Some schools in the US have track bike teams, im not sure if some of the schools have a track, get time on a nearby track or how that works out. Ultimately the question is how do you make it profitable and self sufficient?

Re the frames. Im not sure about different tube shapes. When we talk about stamped dropouts are we talking about the urbane style ones? Heres a picture of the dropouts I use on my frames. I may or may not wish add eyelets for a fender, or a threaded hole for that use.
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Old 04-09-06, 06:32 PM   #3665
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Those drops look like tuning forks (which is sexy)
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Completely off-topic:

I was flipping through some cycling magazine w/ a Lance article. Lance is hanging out w/ one of his kids ...

"What does daddy do?"
"Daddy makes them suffer."

Bwahahaha ...
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Gentlemen (and lady), it's time for a bike build competition:

http://fixedgeargallery.com/contest/build/
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I'd go with the krypto chain, never really trusted those u-locks. those big ones at least. The mini-u's might be good as well.
i use a mini krypto; it fits so snug against the bike that there's no way to get a crowbar or whatever in there. they're also using flat keys now, so not easy to pick...
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Polly ....great to have you here and wonderful to see ya the other day. Those are sexy dropouts.
Shiz.... that ride is badass....how much toe overlap do you have?

I wonder if that alleycat figure 8 track has been sold?
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The alleycat track is still here in Southern Ontario. The surface ply has been used for another project but the structure is still all there. It is stored in a 40 ft truck container out in the boonies. Someday when someone comes up with the required $ (the figure I have heard is 100k) it would be up in a heartbeat. Start saving yer pennies boys.
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who paid to build it in the first place...... Dunhill didn't pony up that much for the AlleyCats at the beginning did they? 100K dang, sounds like a job for the Amish. A good ol' neighborly track build...lol.

Taken a second look at the chain and Operator is right that thing is bling all the way.
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yes indeed....Dunhill ponied up the dough. Johnny Jetfuel put it together.....John Cons, aka clipin on the Bikeforums, designed it. Dunhill signed a 3 year contract....with the track to move between Vancouver and Toronto. I remember the Dunhill reps at the event handing out free packs of smokes...JACKPOT!!
oh yeah...the cost included venue, insurance (a BIG portion of the cost) shipping, and x amount to ship Johnny's chosen crew to the event and build it in a few days. If I remember correctly at the end they were getting the track built in 3 + days. WOW
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I never did get to ride it, though I did go to one the the 'cats. Damned fun to watch. Think toronto could support a proper velodrome? I was wondering if that inflatable building vis-a-vis GolfPro could fit a proper track? WE do have tons of land being "planned for" at the waterfront especially in the east. Maybe a dual function speed oval and velodrome, to help with olympic training, university teams and the public. It would seem that officials have realized what putting a little money up for athletes can do for a sports program, maybe there are some bucks for programs in there somewhere .CAvit8 has some pretty good points.
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