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Old 06-07-06, 11:51 AM   #7501
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Yeah Britain was weird because you have to retrain to drive on the wrong side of everything, damn backwards british. I loved just about everywhere else in Europe, especially Vienna. Nothing like getting hit on by really really hot Austrian girls on a bike (come on Toronto girls get with the program!) Though I have to admit the cobblestones did get a little jarring after awhile.
Oh Vienna. So nice. Loved the path in the middle of the ring-road. I didn't ride at all there unfortunately.
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Had fun biking down to the Hart House breakfast, and then found out about the grassroots breakfast on bloor/brunswick ave.; so I had both. And then elevensies at the bagel stop at college/beverly. Hmm, I;ll probably be riding around town later today, and might still go for the 8pm CV...
I kept an eye out for you at the Hart House one, but I didn't see you. What time were you there? I was there from probably around 8:15 - 8:45.
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I might be interested. Depends on how zonked I am from the velodrome on Saturday.
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Old 06-07-06, 12:30 PM   #7505
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well, it would be cool if you guys could make it, especially since operator has come to his senses and got himself fixed (pun intended).
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oh yeah, i forgot to mention that there is a fixed ride happening this sunday AM, starting at 10 from Balzac's Roastery (in the distillery district); 100km or so, social pace. so far some of the toronto fixed group are showing up so who here is interested?
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Definitely interested.

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Its the exact reason why, even with the vastly lower property values, total cost of living is actually more expensive in the suburbs especially once you have kids of driving age. The entire amount of money I spend on my bike in a year wouldn't put a dent in what my car insurance would be. I think what will be most interesting in Toronto is the change to higher density housing. Besides rosedale, single family dwellings are going to become a rarity in downtown Toronto over the next 20 years.
i have to agree with you. ever since i stopped driving my car, i've had money coming out of my ears!! (well okay, not really...but much more money anyhow!)

higher density housing is silly, but i guess there is no way around it now with the escalading cost of land and also the fact that developers are no longer allowed to develop new land. housing with a small footprint but rise high up are....still small. i dont care how many square feet it actually is! each floor is miniscule!! and u have to scale flights of stairs to get anywhere. d'ah well. what can you do?
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I kept an eye out for you at the Hart House one, but I didn't see you. What time were you there? I was there from probably around 8:15 - 8:45.
Aih! I got there around the time that you left, a little after 8:45...then left for grassroots around 9:20ish.
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nice beater... operator, i'd buy it for you if you were my girlfriend.
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higher density housing is silly, but i guess there is no way around it now with the escalading cost of land and also the fact that developers are no longer allowed to develop new land. housing with a small footprint but rise high up are....still small. i dont care how many square feet it actually is! each floor is miniscule!! and u have to scale flights of stairs to get anywhere. d'ah well. what can you do?
I just wish there was room to build a house in Toronto without being stupid rich enough to buy a house and tear it down just for the property. I'd love to live in a house designed with modern architecture that takes things like sustainability, environmental impact and efficiency into account. The likelyhood of finding something like that in Toronto is slim, and the ability to build it is pretty much nil.

Oh well, I guess it's just not a "toronto thing". I think modern architecture like that (big windows, lots of light, etc) is probably happier in a hilly area anyway because of the views and "natural privacy" (homes behind you are downhill and therefore can't see into the back of your house) afforded by building on the side of a hill. The only real hills in toronto are the ravines which are either protected (rightfully so) and/or prohibitively expensive.

I'll point to http://www.livemodern.com/, even though they appear to be having server issues right now.

http://www.cdnarchitect.com/issues/I...262006&btac=no
http://www.vanartgallery.bc.ca/exhib...fabricated.cfm

Of course, at this stage I'm living in a 1-bdrm apartment so I guess I shouldn't worry too much about not being able to have my perfect modern home, should I? Patience Wesley, patience!

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I've got a front and back yard, two off street parking spaces and a fully detached house. I'm livin' large except that any changes to the house have to be approved. This takes forever and is very restrictive. In Toronto apparently new houses have to reflect the character of the older houses, so no buying a lot on an old street and plunking in a super modern solar/wind powered house. Seems a shame, there are alot of good housing solutions that people are simply not allowed to experiment with.
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Old 06-07-06, 02:07 PM   #7514
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YO! sr20det look what I found on another forum I frequent.
haha nice!
its actually a pretty popular japanese plush toy/character called domo-kun.
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I just wish there was room to build a house in Toronto without being stupid rich enough to buy a house and tear it down just for the property. I'd love to live in a house designed with modern architecture that takes things like sustainability, environmental impact and efficiency into account. The likelyhood of finding something like that in Toronto is slim, and the ability to build it is pretty much nil.

Oh well, I guess it's just not a "toronto thing". I think modern architecture like that (big windows, lots of light, etc) is probably happier in a hilly area anyway because of the views and "natural privacy" (homes behind you are downhill and therefore can't see into the back of your house) afforded by building on the side of a hill. The only real hills in toronto are the ravines which are either protected (rightfully so) and/or prohibitively expensive.

I'll point to http://www.livemodern.com/, even though they appear to be having server issues right now.

http://www.cdnarchitect.com/issues/I...262006&btac=no
http://www.vanartgallery.bc.ca/exhib...fabricated.cfm

Of course, at this stage I'm living in a 1-bdrm apartment so I guess I shouldn't worry too much about not being able to have my perfect modern home, should I? Patience Wesley, patience!

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have you looked into any of the laneway housing alternatives? toronto's got a lot of em. there are even some bike tours organized around them. i've got a link somewhere.. not the cheapest option (but not as exorbitant as you might think) nor the easiest to zone though. say what you may, but condo living isn't that bad. i think we're pretty spoiled for space in north america..
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higher density housing is silly, but i guess there is no way around it now with the escalading cost of land and also the fact that developers are no longer allowed to develop new land.
What gives you that idea? The majority of development is on 'green' land these days, as it has always been. the GTA's suburbs are growing at the fastest pace ever despite loophole filled legislation designed to curb urban sprawl. Density doesn't mean building sky-scrapers, it means using what land you already have in a more efficient manner. This would mean building in deindustrialized brown fields (the don lands), improving substandard housing (regent park)and the transportation network to deal with a more densely arranged population. Its about building mixed use neighbourhoods that are self sufficient, turning bedroom communities into fully fledged neighbourhoods. This city has so much space to rationlize outside of the downtown core as well; the inner suburbs should be where we look to increase density rather than already functionally sustainable downtown neighbourhoods.
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I'm bailing out tonight (probably) because after several false alarms, I am actually getting kittens. I might show up if everything's done with by 8 though, so you guys should still meet at Honest Ed's so that I can show up. Otherwise, someone PM me a cell phone number to call to find you. Kittens!
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What gives you that idea? The majority of development is on 'green' land these days, as it has always been. the GTA's suburbs are growing at the fastest pace ever despite loophole filled legislation designed to curb urban sprawl. Density doesn't mean building sky-scrapers, it means using what land you already have in a more efficient manner. This would mean building in deindustrialized brown fields (the don lands), improving substandard housing (regent park)and the transportation network to deal with a more densely arranged population. Its about building mixed use neighbourhoods that are self sufficient, turning bedroom communities into fully fledged neighbourhoods. This city has so much space to rationlize outside of the downtown core as well; the inner suburbs should be where we look to increase density rather than already functionally sustainable downtown neighbourhoods.
i personally know a land developer, and the whole "not being able to develop any new land in toronto" thing is from him. i'm uncertain. but if toronto's conversions of old factories and warehouses into lofts are any indication, then it definately shows that not many people are seemingly developing new land. it's just building on what is already there.

additionally, the whole higher density building thing is out of whack. i agree with what you have to say, but all new homes/townhomes/appartments are entirely different from those of yesteryear (and have not been built in an efficient manner). look at how much smaller everything has gotten. a step into any new condo development will show you just that. sure, they are larger buildings...but typically smaller units.

i personally just moved to a new development in the yonge/yorkmills are and my home is something like 2000sq ft--but it has 5 floors. so yes, they are fitting more homes into a smaller space...and yes, it is 2000sq ft. but it doesnt help that virtually every floor is a mere 400 feet

anywhoo...who cares? it's all about cycling!
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