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Old 06-21-06, 07:49 AM   #8701
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Okay, we did music awhile back and I ended up w/ some nice albums from the effort. Soo ... top 5 movies (this has been brought on by the post-alleycat movie talk + drinking session awhile back).

I'll stick to documentaries, since that's what I watch the most of:

1. A Certain Kind of Death - http://imdb.com/title/tt0342180/
2. Baraka - http://imdb.com/title/tt0103767/
3. The Fog of War - http://imdb.com/title/tt0317910/
4. Murderball - http://imdb.com/title/tt0436613/
5. One Day in September - http://imdb.com/title/tt0230591/
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Old 06-21-06, 08:09 AM   #8702
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Point: PAC bags are more durable due to the fact that the tarp liner is sandwiched between a layer of Cordura and nylon.

Counterpoint: The layer of tarp liner is actually thinner than what's used in other bags due to weight concerns ... and thus cracks, deteriorates, etc. just as quickly but isn't visible.

Discuss.
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Old 06-21-06, 08:25 AM   #8703
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I'd rather not.
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Point: PAC bags are more durable due to the fact that the tarp liner is sandwiched between a layer of Cordura and nylon.

Counterpoint: The layer of tarp liner is actually thinner than what's used in other bags due to weight concerns ... and thus cracks, deteriorates, etc. just as quickly but isn't visible.

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3 layers are still better than 2? Still my favorite but many others are very close.

On an unrelated topic...I need some help from the computer savvy folks here.
Firstly I have an old computer at home that has a bunch of music (4 gigs) that I want to transfer on to my machine at work. Easy? Hard? Just put the drive in? Help?
Secondly a friend of mine gave me an old Mac laptop..Powerbook G3. I know very little of Mac...even less than P.C. which is very little. If it is not hopelessly outdated software wise I would like to start messing with it. Any Mac guys give me some insight?
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Old 06-21-06, 08:50 AM   #8705
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Point: PAC bags are more durable due to the fact that the tarp liner is sandwiched between a layer of Cordura and nylon.

Counterpoint: The layer of tarp liner is actually thinner than what's used in other bags due to weight concerns ... and thus cracks, deteriorates, etc. just as quickly but isn't visible.

Discuss.
i like my pac bag, cracks or no cracks.
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Old 06-21-06, 08:51 AM   #8706
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3 layers are still better than 2? Still my favorite but many others are very close.

On an unrelated topic...I need some help from the computer savvy folks here.
Firstly I have an old computer at home that has a bunch of music (4 gigs) that I want to transfer on to my machine at work. Easy? Hard? Just put the drive in? Help?
Secondly a friend of mine gave me an old Mac laptop..Powerbook G3. I know very little of Mac...even less than P.C. which is very little. If it is not hopelessly outdated software wise I would like to start messing with it. Any Mac guys give me some insight?

s'easy. rip the hard drive out, set the jumpers onto slave, pop it into the new comp using the same ATA cable as the existing primary hard drive is...and start it up!

bang. 2 hard drives. trasnfer, or use the other one for storage.
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Old 06-21-06, 09:06 AM   #8707
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The powerbook G3 will probably fine if you want to use it for MP3s, word processing and internet I'll check up to what version of operating system it can run. As for transfering music Boro has it exactly right, it should be super easy.
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Old 06-21-06, 09:09 AM   #8708
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Point: PAC bags are more durable due to the fact that the tarp liner is sandwiched between a layer of Cordura and nylon.

Counterpoint: The layer of tarp liner is actually thinner than what's used in other bags due to weight concerns ... and thus cracks, deteriorates, etc. just as quickly but isn't visible.

Discuss.
yea. when I got my bag from Reba, she told me an extra layer of Cordura would be way too heavy cause the tarp liner she uses is much thicker than Pac's. but then again... you already knew that...


and cavernmech, you can always try to transfer stuff through your ipod or external DVD burner and throw all your music onto a DVD.
or just do the harddrive swapping thing.
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Old 06-21-06, 09:14 AM   #8709
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Follow up on the powerbook, check out this website for a good overview of the powerbook and you can officially run up 10.2 of OS x i think I have those cds kicking around somewhere, if I do I'll try to bring them by before the end of the week.
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Old 06-21-06, 09:18 AM   #8710
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Point: PAC bags are more durable due to the fact that the tarp liner is sandwiched between a layer of Cordura and nylon.

Counterpoint: The layer of tarp liner is actually thinner than what's used in other bags due to weight concerns ... and thus cracks, deteriorates, etc. just as quickly but isn't visible.

Discuss.
Your counterpoint is a lil off. The 3-layer liner actually doesn't deteriorate as quickly as an exposed liner. The protective layering better supports the scrim of the liner and helps prevent creasing which is how the cracks begin.
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Old 06-21-06, 09:21 AM   #8711
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All I'll say is that boroSS started it...
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Old 06-21-06, 09:24 AM   #8712
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That was a good time Eyefloater, must repeat. Any news on the guy who had the accident?

Here are 5 films I like.

1) Let's Get Lost
2) High Fidelity
3) Goya in Bordeaux
4) Das Boot
5) Sunset Boulevard

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Old 06-21-06, 09:26 AM   #8713
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I bought a 15 tooth cog from Cavern bike yesterday ( thanks for putting it on the rim Sir Kieth) Big change over the 16 tooth cog plus a friend from work is giving me his Dad''s old Italian racing bike with alot of rust he said but maybe it'll be restorable I think he said it was a Melain ( bad spelling)
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Old 06-21-06, 09:32 AM   #8714
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That was a good time Eyefloater, must repeat. Any news on the guy who had the accident?
Definitely good times. And I was wondering if anyone had any news on the guy as well.. Keith?
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All I'll say is that boroSS started it...
haha whatever! it's always you! *shakes fist*
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Old 06-21-06, 09:43 AM   #8716
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Definitely good times. And I was wondering if anyone had any news on the guy as well.. Keith?

He was happier before it happened, but he'll be alright, taking a month off or so.
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I bought a 15 tooth cog from Cavern bike yesterday ( thanks for putting it on the rim Sir Kieth) Big change over the 16 tooth cog plus a friend from work is giving me his Dad''s old Italian racing bike with alot of rust he said but maybe it'll be restorable I think he said it was a Melain ( bad spelling)
Surface rust?

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I like the exposed tarp on the inside of my bags. It looks cool and provides a nice contrast, but its also super easy to wipe clean and nothing ever gets caught on it. Plus Sam told me that UTW does cheap tarp replacements down the line if they wear out. So try getting tahini sauce off the inside of your cordura with a napkin! Go Tarp!
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3 layers are still better than 2? Still my favorite but many others are very close.

On an unrelated topic...I need some help from the computer savvy folks here.
Firstly I have an old computer at home that has a bunch of music (4 gigs) that I want to transfer on to my machine at work. Easy? Hard? Just put the drive in? Help?
Secondly a friend of mine gave me an old Mac laptop..Powerbook G3. I know very little of Mac...even less than P.C. which is very little. If it is not hopelessly outdated software wise I would like to start messing with it. Any Mac guys give me some insight?
keith, you must have a usb connection on your pc. i can come by tomorrow morning with my external hard drive and we can transfer your nudie pics/illegally downloaded mp3s and whatnot to your mac. i'm mac/linux at work so maybe we can take a looksie at the laptop as well.
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The powerbook G3 will probably fine if you want to use it for MP3s, word processing and internet I'll check up to what version of operating system it can run. As for transfering music Boro has it exactly right, it should be super easy.
i hear keith moonlights in the professional gamers league under the pseudonym "the animal".
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I like the exposed tarp on the inside of my bags. It looks cool and provides a nice contrast, but its also super easy to wipe clean and nothing ever gets caught on it. Plus Sam told me that UTW does cheap tarp replacements down the line if they wear out. So try getting tahini sauce off the inside of your cordura with a napkin! Go Tarp!
Yeah, that's the one thing I really like about my timbuk2 bag. The (optional) waterproof liner feels super durable and it's really easy to clean up.

ps. shiznaz: I still have your sunglasses. let me know if you want me to just drop them in your mailbox or something.
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i hear keith moonlights in the professional gamers league under the pseudonym "the animal".
really now eh hmm perhaps I should challang him to Home World #1.. who's riding this afternoon?
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[QUOTE=somnambulant]Yeah, that's the one thing I really like about my timbuk2 bag. The (optional) waterproof liner feels super durable and it's really easy to clean up.
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keith's laptop inquiry got me to wondering about my own laptop inquiry i have for the techies on this forum. i want to get a small, small (12" monitor or thereabouts) notebook for taking to school, for general email / word processing / some photo work (CD / DVD rw would be handy). also would like to do the wi-fi thing. i've looked around on ebay at some macs and pcs. where else could i get something like that set up that is also nice and cheap? go!
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