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Old 12-14-06, 02:44 PM   #16901
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I'm pretty sure that beverly south of college is still terrible though, and the pattern they cobbled st george with is annoying as you're constantly transitioning between brick and concrete. In a few years its going to be REALLY BAD. I can guaruntee it.
Yeah.. beverly south of college is brutal still. So is dufferin from college to queen. I think those brick sections were supposed to be for traffic calming and to encourage jay-walking, but I don't think enough drivers actually recognize them as such so it winds up creating more dangerous situations than if it was just a regular street since the peds expect cars to stop.

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I have been doing the 15 min ice thing it does seem to help. It might be time to go to someone who really knows knees specifically. I want to know what to do excercise wise to maximize recovery. I have had other muscle injuries in other places before but the knee is a real *****.
Yeah, the ice + advil is going to lessen the SYMPTOMS but it's not doing anything to actually fix you up in the long run. The only things that are going to help that are likely rest and physio. Stretching is GOOD. I'm planning on starting a daily stretching routine (yoga-esque) once I'm back from my vacation. I actually found a great quad stretch last night while looking up information on my own kneecap tracking problem. I have it bookmarked at home.. Just PM me later if you're interested.
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I think the city stopped doing most of the work and are hiring contractors instead. The problem is, nobody is checking their work- and they're doing a craptastic job. Ridden North on Beverly/St George lately? The "bike lane" is pretty much unrideable unless you're on a mountain bike.
Beverly: WORST BIKE LANE EVAR!!!
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Old 12-14-06, 03:24 PM   #16903
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Old 12-14-06, 03:34 PM   #16904
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Thats awesome....and not a Shimano shifter in the bunch. Do these Japanese guys know Shimano is from Japan?
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The animation during the sprint is brilliant, the contorted faces and the sense of pain man animation is an amazing craft.

Edit: My PAC deluxe is ordered and being made...fricken' brilliant
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Thats awesome....and not a Shimano shifter in the bunch. Do these Japanese guys know Shimano is from Japan?
Yeah, I knew I had a problem when I thought to myself: "alright...campy shifters".
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Old 12-14-06, 04:04 PM   #16908
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I love the obfuscated tame names: P-Phone, Team Pamei.
And that can't be a UCI sanctioned race, they're not wearing helmets?
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Totally off-topic.
A question for the Apple/I-Pod experts out there.
I am getting an I-Pod from Santa. He is out shopping for one as I speak. I have been informed that the 8g Nano and the 30g Video I-pod are the same $. Now I had not planned on having much video in it, just for tunes. Other than the obviously larger storage capacity is there a good reason to opt for one over the other? I know battery drain is more of an issue with the vid one...but 30g over 8g sounds enticing. Thoughts.
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The nano has no moving parts - it's all flash memory (no skipping/more durable) whereas the Ipod video uses an internal harddrive. Rumour has it that the video ipod is about to be deprecated in 2007 with the release of another generation of ipod video.

The nano is obviously also smaller than the ipod video. That's all I can think of. If you're going to be taking it on rides, i'd get the nano.
Calling somnambulant...

Edit: If they are the same price the video ipod is tempting

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Old 12-14-06, 04:37 PM   #16911
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nano's will survive longer and have better battery life. They will not show video or hold a ridiculous amount of music. If you need something just for music get the nano, if you want something as a portable harddrive/video/music device get the iPod video. My 2 cents
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Old 12-14-06, 05:06 PM   #16912
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The 30g'r could end up being the sum total of your collection. Also good for passing files back and forth as well. The Nano is mor edurable due to no moving parts, and I've even heard of one being washed in a pocket and coming back to life after an extended drying period.

Still as a portable, 8 Giggos is more than sufficient IMHO. We'll hook some speakers up to a generator at the 24hrs and it'l be a jukebox.
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Old 12-14-06, 05:39 PM   #16913
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The 30g'r could end up being the sum total of your collection. Also good for passing files back and forth as well. The Nano is mor edurable due to no moving parts, and I've even heard of one being washed in a pocket and coming back to life after an extended drying period.

Still as a portable, 8 Giggos is more than sufficient IMHO. We'll hook some speakers up to a generator at the 24hrs and it'l be a jukebox.
So I can still use the Nano for moving files and fotos back and forth between my 2 computers? If that is the case I think I will go Nano. No moving parts sounds good for my rather clumsy self.
Oh yeah...the current video one will be out-dated next year? A new generation means that there is some prob with the current model?
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Old 12-14-06, 05:42 PM   #16914
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Yeah you can use the Nano as a portable harddrive and for photos no problem.
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Old 12-14-06, 05:56 PM   #16915
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I like the size of the Nano. The new shuffle is so small I'd lose it in a heartbeat... Ipod movies are the new baseball cards. *winks* Keith ...the new Nano...will require..NAY demand iTunes7...you have been warned.
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Old 12-14-06, 05:59 PM   #16916
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A new generation means that there is some prob with the current model?
No it generally means they bought up all the old x Giggo micro HDs are are now upto the bigger size.
Note how the Ipod HD sizes are one production cycle behind the laptops.....
Laptops move upto 120G standard...Ipod now 80G....
Brilliant buying off old stock from some other manufacturer to fill al hole in your device.
I think the cost of an iPod is about that of an OK steak dinner
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Only if you get the bad wine with your dinner
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Old 12-14-06, 06:26 PM   #16918
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I meant Apples cost..... Mr. 1500$ dollar dinner. ner
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Keith ...the new Nano...will require..NAY demand iTunes7...you have been warned.
*Cue the sinister music* Meaning if I go with the vid model I dont end up having to use the "new,upgraded" software? I heart upgraded software as you know.
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I primarily will be using it as a music device..both on the bike and at home/work (seems like the same thing sometimes). A solid state type thing would be more durable I know. How fragile are the Vid drives? I mean it is a portable device.
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Dinner for 4 at Ruth's Chris with wine. Done.
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Old 12-14-06, 06:42 PM   #16922
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*Cue the sinister music* Meaning if I go with the vid model I dont end up having to use the "new,upgraded" software? I heart upgraded software as you know.
Actually you buy a new unit, iTunage V7 will be the rule, so come to think of it you are gonna have to. My daughter's Red Nano she got isn't even recognized by previous versions..... the sys req say it needs 256meggos to run...double the previous version. Don;t let that scare you off.... I'm sure Duppy has a piece of SW as a work around if your machine hates Itunes7.

Ruth's Chris? Dang ...never eaten in crazy high food place.
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I have the 30gb ipod video (last years model.. but the only changes have been good ones.. a couple extra features in the software and I think slightly better battery life). I'm a clumsy bastard. I don't think durability enters the equation, personally. At the end of the day for the same price you're either getting 8gb in a tiny package or 30gb is a small package. I don't see the difficulty in choosing personally. I guess it also depends on your listening habits though.. if you tend to just listen to certain albums a lot, maybe the nano would be fine. I'm constantly jumping all around my entire library however, and I only keep full albums. So therefore the 30gb was no contest. Battery life has never been a problem for me. I plug it in every night when I get home.. If I forget, it lasts me through the next day (with my listening habits anyway). I've never really used it for video either, but having that option certainly isn't a negative.

Also, Apple releases a new updated ipod every 6 months or so. If you're afraid of the latest and greatest coming out and making yours "obsolete" then you'll never get anything. Why buy 2007 campy parts.. 2008 is going to be "Better"! I still have a 1st gen 5gb ipod here that works just fine (all that bad press about crappy ipod batteries be damned.. it keeps going and going...). The only reason *I* upgraded was for the extra capacity. And you know what? iTunes 7 works just fine with it, and iTunes 8, 9, and 10 probably will too, because Apple are Good People.

So yeah, the only benefit I can see from the nano is umm.. maybe the slightly better battery life? The video is portable enough for a jersey pocket, durable enough for me to repeatedly drop it on a low-pile carpet over concrete floor at work and have it keep rocking, enough battery life to last a couple days of regular listening in a pinch, and 3.75x more capacity.

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hey keith.

i like the nano. so small i take it with me everywhere. way more than i did with my old ipod (the size of the video) the low weight is incredible. it's like having a pack of of gum on you. so you don't even notice a hotspot on your body when your biking/running/threatening shoplifters with baseball bats

unless you download lots of movies, I'd skip the video. plus 8g of music is alot.
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