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what are your thoughts on the 1260g Kinlin XR200 alloy clincher wheelset 22mm?

Old 05-27-15, 07:30 PM
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I've put about 250 miles on mine. I had to true them a couple of times but overall they've been good for the money. Honestly my veulta Corsa Lite for $220 and 1550 grams seem like the better deal. The 300 grams isn't that noticeable on my bike
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Originally Posted by Dunbar
I thought the XR-200 had a reputation for being sort of a soft rim. Once you get <400g with alloy rims, in general, you run the risk of bending the rim in normal riding conditions unless you're a feather weight or run a lot of spokes.
That is BS

I'm now 180lbs, and used Stans Alpha 340 20/24 spokes and BHS hubs for well over 45k miles. Originally the rear wheel used traditional 2x lacing, but after 15k miles I relaced the wheel 16:8.

The spoke tension was much better after swapping the hub, but I never had an issue with the hoops durability.
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I am looking into these wheels at the moment. They are listed for $250 with free shipping, which sounds like an amazing deal.

Would these work for a rider around 155 lbs? I would use them mainly for climbing on the weekends.

Do these go out of true easily if you ride over lots of potholes and bumps? What about long term durability?
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
But let me say that Dura Ace hubs are certainly high quality, but unnecessarily heavy. Also I don't think they come in a 20/24 spoke hole seat (front/rear). You won't get a 1,260 g set of wheels using them. More like 1,400 g. Not too shabby, but not the same.
Dura Ace hubs are probably the finest hubs available. Shimano made some conscious choices on the weight, so that quality wouldn't be sacrificed in the name of shaving grams.

I'd pick a Dura Ace hub over anything else, any day of the week.
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also looking at these. as a climbing day bike (14,000ft centuries and such)
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Originally Posted by ericmerg1
also looking at these. as a climbing day bike (14,000ft centuries and such)
I've read some bad things about those Powerway hubs yesterday. Someone had bad experiences saying they seize up after a couple of months. Don't know how widespread those issues might be.

You can get them from the same shop on Ebay with Novatec hubs, which have a bit more of a track record among cheap hubs I think. But they are almost 100g heavier, because they use heavier spokes in that configuration.


The consensus seems to be the Kinlin rims are fine. Established wheelbuilders based in the US seem to be offering them. Not sure about those hubs, but they are some of the lightest I have seen.
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Originally Posted by ussprinceton
the seller has 100% positive feedback. Thanks for the responses and input. I think I will build mine as well. Will Shimano DuraAce hubs work with the Kinlin XR200 rims? If so, which are the lightest spokes I can use (please provide a link)?
I built a 20/24 set with Lasers and they work fine. 160lb rider.

Back when Wheels Manuf. was selling the rims for $15 apiece...shipped if you bought 6 or more. And I did of course.

For DA hubs, I'd do 28/24 2x/radial with some cx-ray type of spoke, aerolites, 424s, 1424, etc..

The thing about narrow rims is that while wider rims are heavier, you get to use a smaller advertised size of tire for the same actual width. The xr200 is i13mm. The XR22T is i18mm but you can use a 2mm smaller tire for the same actual width. So the weight difference on paper is 65 grams between the rims, but you get some back with the smaller tire. I don't build with the xr200 anymore; my latest wheelset was DA with XR22T.

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Originally Posted by Jiggle
I built a 20/24 set with Lasers and they work fine. 160lb rider.

Back when Wheels Manuf. was selling the rims for $15 apiece...shipped if you bought 6 or more. And I did of course.

For DA hubs, I'd do 28/24 2x/radial with some cx-ray type of spoke, aerolites, 424s, 1424, etc..

The thing about narrow rims is that while wider rims are heavier, you get to use a smaller advertised size of tire for the same actual width. The xr200 is i13mm. The XR22T is i18mm but you can use a 2mm smaller tire for the same actual width. So the weight difference on paper is 65 grams between the rims, but you get some back with the smaller tire. I don't build with the xr200 anymore; my latest wheelset was DA with XR22T.
You seem to know your way around wheel building:

Do you have any opinion on Powerway or Novatec Hubs? What about Bitex, are those any good? Those brands are some of the cheapest lightweight hubs I have seen around.

How about those CN Aero 424 spokes? Are those any good?

Thanks!
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I have a wheelset with 424s and I didn't notice a difference between them and Aerolites either when building or riding. I have a road wheelset with Bitex hubs that I only ride in the dry, and while they work just fine, I have them set aside for now because Shimano hubs are quieter. The XR200 wheelset I mentioned has a Dati hubset (which is quite light, like 289g for the set) and I don't like the rear at all. I can't explain exactly what is wrong with it. When under high torque, it feels funny, like the bearings are binding. Maybe the axle is bending? I ride my cx bike on singletrack with some 30% grades so it does take some stress. It is going to get switched out for something else.

Bitex has a pretty good reputation. Some pros ride on them. I've seen photos, I think it was the Tour of California last year.
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