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    Weight Weenie Question

    What is the main benefit(s) from shaving a pound or two from your bike? Is it just to travel faster or is there a stability/performance benefit as well?

    I'm just curious since I had a discussion with a guy 20 pounds over weight on how he was going to spend $500 shaving two pounds from his bike!

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    It is to travel faster, improve handling, and conserve energy on rides. Saving two pounds on a frame would be far less noticeable than taking it from the wheels for example and would still provide a major handling and performance increase. 500 to shave two pounds? Many will spend 3 times that to shave half as much!

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    There's like.....hundreds of threads on this. I'm not trying to be mean, but it's like beating a dead horse.
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    Yeah, wow...dropping 2lbs for $500 is great ROI!

    I don't know that a lighter bike makes you any faster, but it does make a bike feel more responsive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
    Yeah, wow...dropping 2lbs for $500 is great ROI!

    I don't know that a lighter bike makes you any faster, but it does make a bike feel more responsive.
    Zackly! And if you can beat $1/g, you are doing fine. Besides all that bike weight that he is removing will combine with any lost body weight (if, when) to really help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
    Yeah, wow...dropping 2lbs for $500 is great ROI!

    I don't know that a lighter bike makes you any faster, but it does make a bike feel more responsive.
    I just went from a 17# bike to a 14# and it cost me way more than 10x that.

    After putting 200 miles on the new bike... yes i am faster. Maybe it has to do with the bike being more responsive, less flex in the bottom bracket and tighter handling. Or maybe that i joined a gym after buying it in January, lost 18# and attend spin class 5 times a week.

    Or maybe i'm just excited to ride it and work harder than i did before.

    The law of diminishing returns is in control. The difference between a $400 bike and a $1000 bike is greater than a $1000 and a $10,000 bike.

    Remember, the most expensive bike is the one you rarely ride, so if you ride a new bike more, you're getting good value.

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    Bragging rights. Being admired by the other weenies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaadster View Post

    I don't know that a lighter bike makes you any faster, but it does make a bike feel more expensive.
    True story!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmostTrick View Post
    Bragging rights. Being admired by the other weenies.
    Honestly only people that are weenies might notice, the majority won't and that's OK with me.

    The past week I went on 2 group rides and 4 solos. On the Sunday group a guy i've ridden with last year asked if I got a new bike, so i said yes. That was the extent of the conversation.... and that's OK with me.

    My bike is black with ghost logos so unless you look really close it's just looks like a generic black bike... and that's OK with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inpd View Post
    What is the main benefit(s) from shaving a pound or two from your bike?
    As a 130-140 pound climber each pound less is a 0.6-0.7% speedup worth about twenty seconds an hour in the mountains time trialing or riding off the front and you don't have any left to loose off your body.

    I'm just curious since I had a discussion with a guy 20 pounds over weight on how he was going to spend $500 shaving two pounds from his bike!
    That's just pride of ownership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnslow2 View Post
    ...that's OK with me.

    .... and that's OK with me.

    ... and that's OK with me.
    Well, you're not a very argumentative guy but I think it's something you could work on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    Well, you're not a very argumentative guy but I think it's something you could work on.
    Yes I am, it's just that i don't care what others think about me or my motives. But ask for my opinion and you'll get it in spades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnslow2 View Post
    Yes I am, it's just that i don't care what others think about me or my motives. But ask for my opinion and you'll get it in spades.
    And Im OKAY with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by dippitydoo View Post
    And Im OKAY with that
    I'm glad we agree... makes life easier.

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    The comment that always comes up is that dropping five pounds of fat will do more than any bike savings. And that is true.

    But, if you are doing everything you can to improve your fitness, training and diet to make you faster on the bike, does it not also make sense to purchase every advantage in equipment that you can (within the rules of the sport)? I think so.

    Furthermore, at this point, it's getting pretty easy to get bikes down to 14-15 pounds without turning to fancy, boutique brands. There's a guy in the racing forum who recently added weights to his son's Specialized Venge - it looks to be a 56 or 58 - to make it UCI compliant. (The kid is racing in Europe.) And the bike is composed of pretty much stock parts.

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    Shoot him. Take his money.

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    You will go faster uphill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvo View Post
    You will go faster uphill
    But with less weight you will not coast as far going downhill, due to less momentum. I weigh about 35 lbs more than lots of the riders in my group, and when hitting the valley at the bottom of a hill, I can always coast right past them, without pedaling, which gives me a longer recovery time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riveting View Post
    But with less weight you will not coast as far going downhill, due to less momentum. I weigh about 35 lbs more than lots of the riders in my group, and when hitting the valley at the bottom of a hill, I can always coast right past them, without pedaling, which gives me a longer recovery time.
    It doesn't make the time up, unless the extra 35 pounds also makes you more aero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topflightpro View Post
    Furthermore, at this point, it's getting pretty easy to get bikes down to 14-15 pounds without turning to fancy, boutique brands.
    Indeed. My Cannondale Evo is 15 pounds with Dura Ace, pedals, aluminum wheels and bottle cages. Probably cost another $3k to get it 14 pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmh657 View Post
    Indeed. My Cannondale Evo is 15 pounds with Dura Ace, pedals, aluminum wheels and bottle cages.
    Thanks for weighing a complete bike. I hate it when people quote the weight without all those.

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    Like Carmichael says - almost all cyclists could stand to drop 10 lbs. If done correctly that would create much better results than shaving a few lbs from the bike.

    I guess it's hard/expensive to go to a store and have them suck lbs of fat out of the body so a lot of folks focus on what they can easily purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RShantz View Post
    Like Carmichael says - almost all cyclists could stand to drop 10 lbs. If done correctly that would create much better results than shaving a few lbs from the bike.

    I guess it's hard/expensive to go to a store and have them suck lbs of fat out of the body so a lot of folks focus on what they can easily purchase.
    Yes, but just imagine if you could do both! Confusing what you get from losing body weight and losing bike weight is a very common error among BF participants. As is also thinking the two things are mutually exclusive. Both are highly desirable, and both are able to be accomplished if sufficiently desired. But the effects of doing the two different things are totally different. When someone is talking about what gains can be made by removing weight from a bicycle why would you confound the issue with the idea of losing body weight. That wasn't at all the question. Why should you express the notion that one is has anything to do with the other?
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    more important...why drive a BMW when a Ford will get you there just as effectively at half the price?
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